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| Ryu2 |
 Nov 27 2007, 12:39 AM
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 Shy  Group: Arcs Posts: 29 Joined: 5-December 06 Member No.: 326  |
Planning for map for YU-WC3.
Level cap of 20. Each unit has four skills: Passive: Lowers damage, gives (increases?) MP regeneration. Turns on and off like immolation, without a startup cost. Cancels "Active". Active: Increases damage, uses up MP each second. Turns on and off like immolation, without a startup cost. Cancels "Passive". Item: Makes an item. Item made depends on unit and level of skill. Long cooldown. Troops: Calls 6/3 smaller copies of the unit, depending on the size. Ultimate: Basically the Card skill associated with the unit. Learns at level 6 , 13, and 20. Item: - Generated items are considered artifacts, which means a unit can't carry more than one at a time. - Artifacts are basically the YU items. - All items are consumable for HP. If possible, change the amount of HP gained depending on the unit and the item. - For example, Nietzche will make items that boost Blizzard damage, and raise her stats and her troops' stats (basically damage, armor, spell damage reduction, and... critical/block rate?) - Artifacts have a chance to drop when one dies. Troops: - Calls 5/2 units of the same type as the unit summoning. Stats will depend on either skill level or the unit itself (we must pick one). - Nessiah will summon random units. - Medium cooldown. - Summoning more units will overwrite old units. Card Skills: - Card skills use 100 MP. - Most skills only affect troops (i.e. summoned units). Valkyrie: Revolution - If no troops, then kill the troops of the selected hero. Fencer: Banish? Banshee's Cry? Starts with Item Break, or make it a level 20 skill? Maybe a level 10 skill? Bandit: Rockfall/Dragon Killer - if Dragonkiller, then changes damage type to the weakness of Gulcasa and Durant. Gryphon Rider: Gravity Chaos? Knight: Chariot Undine: Blizzard/Diamond Dust Witch: Doll Craft - Permasummons a big golem which can Call Troops two smaller golems. (permasummons = no expiration time). Long cooldown. Necromancer: Necro Gate- Permasummons a skeleton which can Call Troops 5 smaller Skeletons. Hunter: Thunderbolt - Implemented as Forked Lightning? Assassin: Bloody Claw - Kills a hero. Only usable at night. Golem: Earthquake - ? Skeleton: Poison Breath - ? Yggdra: Jihad - automatically learn at level 20. If she has no troops, kill the hero and its troops. Milanor: Steal - knows at level 1. Steals opponent's artifact. Gulcasa: Genocide - learns automatically at level 20. Kills all of his troops and increases his attack speed by 100 for each unit sacrificed. Can't call troops while in Genocide. (perhaps cancelled by calling troops?) Nessiah: Reincarnation - ? Durant: Not originally a skill, but at level 20 auto-learns the ability to ride on a dragon for a short time, for no MP cost. Changes damage type to whatever Gulcasa's is. One day will be twice as long as the cooldown for Bloody Claw, to prevent it from being used twice a day. Units: - Undine will be ranged spears, so that they can attack from the puddles. Cards: - Cards will be implemented as non-artifact unique items (can't be stolen or broken, but drops on defeat). - Cards do not recover morale. |
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| smarttman |
Nov 27 2007, 01:56 AM
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 Lazy Group: Arcs Posts: 18 Joined: 30-April 07 Member No.: 1178 |
Nice. How about maybe cancelling summoning when ennemies units are too near or maybe cancel it while in battle?
~~~ Three rousing rahs, a few huzzahs, and a hip hip hurray. What's good for General Bullmoose is good for the U.S.A.
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| yip9 |
Nov 27 2007, 02:14 AM
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Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 33 Joined: 23-June 08 Member No.: 1749 |
I don't understand.
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| valkan |
Nov 27 2007, 02:36 AM
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Vivec Group: Knights Posts: 646 Joined: 23-December 05 Member No.: 5 |
He's saying that he doesn't want people to be able to summon units during battle.
Example: Yggdra engages Gulcasa in combat. Gulcasa kills all of Yggdra's units. He wants to make it so Yggdra cannot then summon more units. ~~~ "Wheels within wheels..."
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| forsakensmile |
Nov 27 2007, 02:38 AM
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 Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 40 Joined: 24-December 05 Member No.: 12 |
Are we aiming to make it as YU-like as possible?
ALSO PERHAPS WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL YUPSP COMES BECAUSE THERE'S THAT ONE BATTLEFIELD AND CARD |
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| Enzd |
Nov 27 2007, 02:39 AM
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 NNNNNYAN Group: Knights Posts: 870 Joined: 17-January 06 Member No.: 45 |
Could we not just add to it after YUPSP comes out? Most maps aren't done in one version, you know.
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| flunky1412 |
Nov 27 2007, 02:54 AM
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 Lazy Group: Arcs Posts: 16 Joined: 16-November 08 Member No.: 1810 |
Oh, I guess.
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| Ethronix |
Nov 27 2007, 02:59 AM
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 Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 37 Joined: 3-November 06 From: Nifilheim Member No.: 263 |
Probably set the skill to a trigger that doesn't allow troop summoning in the battle zone.
But the troops should have pretty high cooldown anyway (one minute?). ~~~ Persona3 fandom
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| Rhiannon |
Nov 27 2007, 07:01 PM
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 I'm really moved by the chicken bone Group: Gods Posts: 2033 Joined: 23-December 05 From: Minnesotablarg Member No.: 4 |
RAI IF YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION I'LL HELP YOU
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| TaylorGS |
Nov 27 2007, 09:51 PM
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 Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 26 Joined: 1-December 06 From: WiFi Land Member No.: 307 |
UM WE'RE MAKING IT MORE YU THAN THE FFT MAP WAS FFT, BUT NOT SO MUCH AS TO FORCE DUELS ALL THE TIME RATHER THAN JUST FIGHTING AND GANGING UP.
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| DavidSchinkel |
Nov 28 2007, 03:05 AM
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 Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 42 Joined: 10-June 10 From: Gig Harbor, Washington Member No.: 2071 |
So, I'll build the map, and someone else makes balance changes.
I VOTE CHEFT. |
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| Martel |
Nov 28 2007, 04:14 AM
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 Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 37 Joined: 6-May 06 Member No.: 118 |
I can do balance changes. Balancing isn't very hard it seems.
~~~ "What was his name again? Midale?" - When one does not remember Milanor's name.
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| Archeia |
Nov 28 2007, 05:29 AM
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 (๑╹ω╹๑ ) Group: Knights Posts: 538 Joined: 21-January 08 From: Australia Member No.: 1689 |
Who will do character sprites?
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| Wally |
Nov 28 2007, 04:32 PM
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 Talkative Group: Arcs Posts: 130 Joined: 18-January 06 From: Ontario Member No.: 47 |
I could try?
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| Hayate |
Nov 29 2007, 12:57 AM
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 Nerd nerd nerd Group: Flunkies Posts: 340 Joined: 14-February 08 From: The Battleground Member No.: 1697 |
Yggdra: Revolution, Crusade.
Milanor: Steal. Durant: Ace Guard and/or Chariot. Nietzsche: Diamond Dust/Blizzard. Cruz: Thunderbolt. Kylier: Gravity Chaos. Roswell: Necro Gate. Rosary: Doll Craft. Russell: Item Break. Elena: Bloody Claw. Gulcasa: Genocide. Eudy: Flame. Baldus: Ace Guard. Leon: Chariot. Zilva: Bloody Claw. Aegina: Revolution. Emilia: Gravity Chaos. Nessiah: Reincarnation. Mizer: Thunderbolt. Dort: Sandstorm. Mardym: Poison Breath. Juvelon: Medusa Eye. Amareus: Medusa Eye. Inzaghi: Banshee's Cry. Ishiene: Diamond Dust/Blizzard. Emelone: Diamond Dust/Blizzard. Ortega: Mirage. Pamela: Fortune. Monica: Sanctuary. Canaan: Banish. ~~~ Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
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