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Blue angel?, Don't flame me, but I can't get this out of my head...

slash89slash	Jan 5 2008, 04:04 PM Post #1
Lazy Group: Arcs Posts: 13 Joined: 27-April 07 From: The Red Minion Hive Member No.: 1161	In the PSP version of Riviera, there is an early cg of an angel hovering over the graveyard, in a similar fashion that Ledah did in a similar CG. The angel never appears in Riviera, and it has brown hair and a blue Diviner. In one of the promotional Yggdra Union trailers, there is an enemy called "the angelic" that looks identical to the one in the Riviera CG...does anyone else notice this? At all? Or am I getting obsessed with minor similarities?

Greifer	Jan 6 2008, 01:26 AM Post #2
Baby Chocobo Cuteness Group: Arcs Posts: 420 Joined: 7-April 06 From: Underground Member No.: 105	It's Malice. Diviners have 1337 changing powers. This post has been edited by Raijinili: Jan 6 2008, 01:29 AM ~~~ I once saw Phoenix Wright cosplay at JACON... I thought my eyes would shrivel up.

The Angel of Ruin	Jan 6 2008, 01:47 AM Post #3
Casual Chatter Group: Arcs Posts: 70 Joined: 4-January 08 Member No.: 1680	Well, that's better than what Sturm thought. He thought the angel was Ein in an earlier life, given that they have very similar clothes. "The Angelic"... It could be Malice, but it likely isn't. It's probably just an angel with striking similarities, like Archangel and Marietta.

Endless	Jan 7 2008, 08:18 PM Post #4
Lv 99 Lurker Group: Arcs Posts: 177 Joined: 12-April 06 From: Only the Night Sky Knows Member No.: 109	It's another way to keep giving hints that Yggdra Union is the prequal to Riviera really. Without really saying anything. After all, 'The Angelic No.367' looks like a Grim Angel, and it is in a level that looks like the stones at Heaven's Gate. ~~~ Wild ARMs 5 <3

Lloyd Seegymont the Rasier	Jan 7 2008, 08:37 PM Post #5
Keeping the forum afloat Group: Knights Posts: 1438 Joined: 22-December 06 From: Bayliss Member No.: 392	The world in Riviera and Yggdra are same. It could be that Nessiah is the surviving Hector and the Angelic Number 367 is just.....Malice? According to her diviner and hair colour of course...... Yggdra Union takes place....around 2000-3000 years after Riviera...... Probably also that the Holy Sword is the Einherjar itself.... That's all thanks. ~~~ blues477 (10:29:38 AM): found you (10:29:40 AM): you motherfucker LoRdXrAsLeR(10:29:48 AM): D: (10:29:54 AM): NO DON'T

zie	Jan 7 2008, 09:30 PM Post #6
Lazy Group: Arcs Posts: 1 Joined: 5-June 10 Member No.: 2062	Um, what are you people talking about? Riviera and Yggdra Union take place in the same universe. This has already been established. Ancardia was rejected from the floating islands that consist of Asgard [shinkai/Heaven], Riviera [formerly Utgard], and Heaven's Gate--where Riviera takes place. Yggdra Union takes place in the human world. One is not a "prequel" to the other (meaning direct story connection) by any means, because they are in entirely different eras--in Yggdra Union » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Marietta is still an angel rather than an Accursed--if Marietta is the same Archangel, which we don't know plus the gods are alive and well. Nessiah is not Hector. Their characterizations are entirely different. Also, Nessiah is blond. Hector has blue hair. And as Yggdra Union ends, » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Nessiah's physical representation is destroyed/killed (however temporarily or permanently, we can't know). He isn't forgiven and let back into Asgard. If Hector is alive at this time, why would he ever be let into a trusted position if he's been kicked out of Asgard for something serious as Nessiah has? And as I remember it, Nessiah never possesses any aspirations towards global domination or becoming a god--he wants revenge and to overthrow the current system because it's "wrong", period. #367 might be someone from Malice's family; her Diviner » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « may be what Skadi was forged to resemble. Also, you might take notice that she does not have black wings. She may not be a "real" Grim Angel either. As the gods are still alive and well and the artificial Grim Angel creation process (the angel him- or herself sacrificing some element of themselves in exchange for a Diviner and godly powers) has not yet been conceived/perfected, she might be an experimental stage. And, um? The Grim Angel at the start of Riviera is a brunet and is dressed like Ein, whereas #367 is a redhead and her clothes resemble Malice's. The new stage takes place in Heaven's Gate = DUH. It says so right on the screen. We will have to wait until January 24 to find out what her story circumstances are. Speculation is all we can go on as to that until then. But if you are going to speculate, please take into account what we already do know.

Ethronix	Jan 8 2008, 05:04 PM Post #7
Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 37 Joined: 3-November 06 From: Nifilheim Member No.: 263	QUOTE(sandpenguin @ Jan 7 2008, 08:37 PM) The world in Riviera and Yggdra are same. It could be that Nessiah is the surviving Hector and the Angelic Number 367 is just.....Malice? According to her diviner and hair colour of course...... Yggdra Union takes place....around 2000-3000 years after Riviera...... Probably also that the Holy Sword is the Einherjar itself.... That's all thanks. You fail again... ~~~ Persona3 fandom

grgspunk	Jan 8 2008, 06:00 PM Post #8
Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 41 Joined: 23-August 06 Member No.: 198	/facepalm penguin the Holy Sword is the Gran Centurio. It looks nothing like the Einherjar. For one big reason: The Gran Centurio is a big huge two-handed sword. The Einherjar is a one-handed thunderbolt-style sword. No.367 may be as Feral says... A experimental angel. This is again going largely into assumptions, but those 'extra' levels may be only if » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « you decided to initiate Ragnarok. So they may not be canonically correct and so the levels were added in to a sort of AU arc. So going off that... You could then assume No.367 is a experiment into trying to develop a more powerful angel to fend off the invading human army. Going further off that you could then assume the Gods will eventually sacrifice themselves to create true Grim Angels. Again this would be pure speculation and is more then likely not what is canonically meant to happen. Although who the guy in the white hat and coat is though is really a mystery. I think someone said his name was like 'Heaven Soldier' or something.

DustyHaru	Jan 8 2008, 08:25 PM Post #9
Check Length Group: Knights Posts: 916 Joined: 7-August 07 From: Check Length Member No.: 1632	Why can't it just be a normal Grim Angel? I mean, what's leading you to think it could be an experimental angel? Malice was number 1132, by the way.

elroid	Jan 8 2008, 09:23 PM Post #10
Lazy Group: Arcs Posts: 4 Joined: 14-April 10 Member No.: 2045	Because we like to rule out every likely possibility and gun for the absolutes.

Archeia	Jan 8 2008, 11:16 PM Post #11
(๑╹ω╹๑ ) Group: Knights Posts: 538 Joined: 21-January 08 From: Australia Member No.: 1689	QUOTE(Rhiannon @ Jan 8 2008, 12:25 PM) Why can't it just be a normal Grim Angel? I mean, what's leading you to think it could be an experimental angel? Malice was number 1132, by the way. They had numbers or are you just listing a random number? ~~~ Yggdra Union Scanlation Project Seraphim Project - A Riviera Fangame -

Lux	Jan 9 2008, 12:02 AM Post #12
Casual Chatter Group: Arcs Posts: 88 Joined: 30-October 08 From: Wikipedia Member No.: 1805	It says in one of the dramas that her number is 1132. I don't think there's anything that says what number Ein and Ledah were, though.

Bron	Jan 9 2008, 01:43 AM Post #13
Lazy Group: Arcs Posts: 9 Joined: 30-April 10 From: Finland Member No.: 2055	Ah the dramas... See, I wouldn't know about those. But if her number is 1132... Does that mean she's the 1132nd Grim Angel (I find this unlikely unless there was a freaking high number of Gods...) or just the 1132nd to try to become one? Or it is something else entirely.. ~~~ Yggdra..I don't know how to deal with girls who have been named after trees..

S. S. Wilkins	Jan 9 2008, 02:43 AM Post #14
Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 39 Joined: 17-April 06 Member No.: 113	QUOTE(Suzu Fujibayashi @ Jan 9 2008, 01:43 AM) Ah the dramas... See, I wouldn't know about those. But if her number is 1132... Does that mean she's the 1132nd Grim Angel (I find this unlikely unless there was a freaking high number of Gods...) or just the 1132nd to try to become one? Or it is something else entirely.. I have no idea what your talking about...

onyhow	Jan 9 2008, 06:13 AM Post #15
Lazy Group: Arcs Posts: 7 Joined: 23-March 10 Member No.: 2043	QUOTE(Lord Rasler @ Jan 8 2008, 11:04 AM) QUOTE(sandpenguin @ Jan 7 2008, 08:37 PM) The world in Riviera and Yggdra are same. It could be that Nessiah is the surviving Hector and the Angelic Number 367 is just.....Malice? According to her diviner and hair colour of course...... Yggdra Union takes place....around 2000-3000 years after Riviera...... Probably also that the Holy Sword is the Einherjar itself.... That's all thanks. You fail again... Don't spam this topic.

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