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Blue angel?, Don't flame me, but I can't get this out of my head...

valkan	Jan 5 2008, 04:04 PM Post #1
Vivec Group: Knights Posts: 646 Joined: 23-December 05 Member No.: 5	In the PSP version of Riviera, there is an early cg of an angel hovering over the graveyard, in a similar fashion that Ledah did in a similar CG. The angel never appears in Riviera, and it has brown hair and a blue Diviner. In one of the promotional Yggdra Union trailers, there is an enemy called "the angelic" that looks identical to the one in the Riviera CG...does anyone else notice this? At all? Or am I getting obsessed with minor similarities? ~~~ "Wheels within wheels..."

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Marionette	Jan 6 2008, 01:26 AM Post #2
The Comedy of Errors Group: Knights Posts: 615 Joined: 24-December 05 From: Puerto Rico Member No.: 11	It's Malice. Diviners have 1337 changing powers. This post has been edited by Raijinili: Jan 6 2008, 01:29 AM ~~~

Aekari	Jan 6 2008, 01:47 AM Post #3
Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 43 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 311	Well, that's better than what Sturm thought. He thought the angel was Ein in an earlier life, given that they have very similar clothes. "The Angelic"... It could be Malice, but it likely isn't. It's probably just an angel with striking similarities, like Archangel and Marietta. ~~~ "Do you see anything? It seems to me I am trying to tell you a dream - making a vain attempt, beceause no relation of a dream can convey the dream sensation, that commingling of absurdity, surprise, and bewilderment in a tremor of struggling revolt, that notion of being captured by the incredible which is the very essence of dreams...."

Crazycolorz5	Jan 7 2008, 08:18 PM Post #4
Lazy Group: Arcs Posts: 12 Joined: 14-February 12 Member No.: 2664	It's another way to keep giving hints that Yggdra Union is the prequal to Riviera really. Without really saying anything. After all, 'The Angelic No.367' looks like a Grim Angel, and it is in a level that looks like the stones at Heaven's Gate.

{EsG} Orochi	Jan 7 2008, 08:37 PM Post #5
Lazy Group: Arcs Posts: 24 Joined: 11-December 07 From: in your pool Member No.: 1666	The world in Riviera and Yggdra are same. It could be that Nessiah is the surviving Hector and the Angelic Number 367 is just.....Malice? According to her diviner and hair colour of course...... Yggdra Union takes place....around 2000-3000 years after Riviera...... Probably also that the Holy Sword is the Einherjar itself.... That's all thanks. ~~~ yum the other white meat

Knightman	Jan 7 2008, 09:30 PM Post #6
Talkative Group: Arcs Posts: 100 Joined: 21-April 08 Member No.: 1724	Um, what are you people talking about? Riviera and Yggdra Union take place in the same universe. This has already been established. Ancardia was rejected from the floating islands that consist of Asgard [shinkai/Heaven], Riviera [formerly Utgard], and Heaven's Gate--where Riviera takes place. Yggdra Union takes place in the human world. One is not a "prequel" to the other (meaning direct story connection) by any means, because they are in entirely different eras--in Yggdra Union » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Marietta is still an angel rather than an Accursed--if Marietta is the same Archangel, which we don't know plus the gods are alive and well. Nessiah is not Hector. Their characterizations are entirely different. Also, Nessiah is blond. Hector has blue hair. And as Yggdra Union ends, » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Nessiah's physical representation is destroyed/killed (however temporarily or permanently, we can't know). He isn't forgiven and let back into Asgard. If Hector is alive at this time, why would he ever be let into a trusted position if he's been kicked out of Asgard for something serious as Nessiah has? And as I remember it, Nessiah never possesses any aspirations towards global domination or becoming a god--he wants revenge and to overthrow the current system because it's "wrong", period. #367 might be someone from Malice's family; her Diviner » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « may be what Skadi was forged to resemble. Also, you might take notice that she does not have black wings. She may not be a "real" Grim Angel either. As the gods are still alive and well and the artificial Grim Angel creation process (the angel him- or herself sacrificing some element of themselves in exchange for a Diviner and godly powers) has not yet been conceived/perfected, she might be an experimental stage. And, um? The Grim Angel at the start of Riviera is a brunet and is dressed like Ein, whereas #367 is a redhead and her clothes resemble Malice's. The new stage takes place in Heaven's Gate = DUH. It says so right on the screen. We will have to wait until January 24 to find out what her story circumstances are. Speculation is all we can go on as to that until then. But if you are going to speculate, please take into account what we already do know. ~~~ My DA page Anime-Planet.com - anime \| manga \| reviews

FlameSpark	Jan 8 2008, 05:04 PM Post #7
Talkative Group: Arcs Posts: 140 Joined: 5-April 07 From: Wandering aimlessly... Member No.: 978	QUOTE(sandpenguin @ Jan 7 2008, 08:37 PM) The world in Riviera and Yggdra are same. It could be that Nessiah is the surviving Hector and the Angelic Number 367 is just.....Malice? According to her diviner and hair colour of course...... Yggdra Union takes place....around 2000-3000 years after Riviera...... Probably also that the Holy Sword is the Einherjar itself.... That's all thanks. You fail again... ~~~

H. Tsukiyono	Jan 8 2008, 06:00 PM Post #8
I am not a cat meow Group: Flunkies Posts: 310 Joined: 7-June 07 From: that CA state Member No.: 1457	/facepalm penguin the Holy Sword is the Gran Centurio. It looks nothing like the Einherjar. For one big reason: The Gran Centurio is a big huge two-handed sword. The Einherjar is a one-handed thunderbolt-style sword. No.367 may be as Feral says... A experimental angel. This is again going largely into assumptions, but those 'extra' levels may be only if » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « you decided to initiate Ragnarok. So they may not be canonically correct and so the levels were added in to a sort of AU arc. So going off that... You could then assume No.367 is a experiment into trying to develop a more powerful angel to fend off the invading human army. Going further off that you could then assume the Gods will eventually sacrifice themselves to create true Grim Angels. Again this would be pure speculation and is more then likely not what is canonically meant to happen. Although who the guy in the white hat and coat is though is really a mystery. I think someone said his name was like 'Heaven Soldier' or something.

Anonoymous BBS	Jan 8 2008, 08:25 PM Post #9
Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 32 Joined: 21-September 06 From: You tell me Member No.: 227	Why can't it just be a normal Grim Angel? I mean, what's leading you to think it could be an experimental angel? Malice was number 1132, by the way.

Kotlol	Jan 8 2008, 09:23 PM Post #10
Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 38 Joined: 22-September 08 Member No.: 1783	Because we like to rule out every likely possibility and gun for the absolutes. ~~~ (Currently trying to make Yggdra Union flashes) (sorry for the animated sig)

Silver Seraph	Jan 8 2008, 11:16 PM Post #11
Lazy Group: Arcs Posts: 14 Joined: 20-July 06 From: Los Angeles, California Member No.: 171	QUOTE(Rhiannon @ Jan 8 2008, 12:25 PM) Why can't it just be a normal Grim Angel? I mean, what's leading you to think it could be an experimental angel? Malice was number 1132, by the way. They had numbers or are you just listing a random number?

Durango	Jan 9 2008, 12:02 AM Post #12
Shy Group: Arcs Posts: 49 Joined: 18-June 07 From: Georgia Member No.: 1524	It says in one of the dramas that her number is 1132. I don't think there's anything that says what number Ein and Ledah were, though. ~~~ QUOTE Calvin: Native Americans would be more plentiful if they hadn't traded their land for casinos. Hobbes: Well, cowboys never even existed. They're just a masculine image campaign purported by Marlboro.

Grim Angel Kotaro	Jan 9 2008, 01:43 AM Post #13
Lazy Group: Arcs Posts: 20 Joined: 18-March 06 Member No.: 90	Ah the dramas... See, I wouldn't know about those. But if her number is 1132... Does that mean she's the 1132nd Grim Angel (I find this unlikely unless there was a freaking high number of Gods...) or just the 1132nd to try to become one? Or it is something else entirely..

Astarte Mellia	Jan 9 2008, 02:43 AM Post #14
Lazy Group: Arcs Posts: 6 Joined: 12-June 10 From: Aventheim Member No.: 2074	QUOTE(Suzu Fujibayashi @ Jan 9 2008, 01:43 AM) Ah the dramas... See, I wouldn't know about those. But if her number is 1132... Does that mean she's the 1132nd Grim Angel (I find this unlikely unless there was a freaking high number of Gods...) or just the 1132nd to try to become one? Or it is something else entirely.. I have no idea what your talking about... ~~~ Hm.hm..hm..Hi, I'm an astarte

fensti	Jan 9 2008, 06:13 AM Post #15
Life Waster Group: Knights Posts: 529 Joined: 27-December 05 From: Pennsylvania Member No.: 27	QUOTE(Lord Rasler @ Jan 8 2008, 11:04 AM) QUOTE(sandpenguin @ Jan 7 2008, 08:37 PM) The world in Riviera and Yggdra are same. It could be that Nessiah is the surviving Hector and the Angelic Number 367 is just.....Malice? According to her diviner and hair colour of course...... Yggdra Union takes place....around 2000-3000 years after Riviera...... Probably also that the Holy Sword is the Einherjar itself.... That's all thanks. You fail again... Don't spam this topic.

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