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post May 13 2011, 01:16 AM
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I got a C in Calc III two years ago, but I also missed the final :(


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post May 13 2011, 05:43 AM
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try to generalize regular calculus, it'll be a good exercise and will help you understand it better.

not talking from experience in calculus, just talking in

actually, no, calculus is just practice. screw that.


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post May 13 2011, 07:26 AM
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post May 13 2011, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(Raijinili @ May 13 2011, 12:43 AM) *

try to generalize regular calculus, it'll be a good exercise and will help you understand it better.

not talking from experience in calculus, just talking in

actually, no, calculus is just practice. screw that.


I've generalized it for the most part, the first two terms of calculus up to vector calculus wasn't hard to understand. Its just the vectors themselves, I don't fully understand how they act or function. I'll generalize it eventually. Some stuff I do get, though, like in some formulas the formula for arc length is used in the formula.

Also, I know there's harder math out there. I have to deal with it to graduate. It doesn't mean that its impossible to get stuck on a concept.

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post May 13 2011, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(aerozero @ May 13 2011, 04:26 AM) *

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post May 14 2011, 01:31 AM
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post May 14 2011, 03:49 AM
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post May 14 2011, 07:49 AM
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post May 14 2011, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(Elnendil @ May 13 2011, 04:30 PM) *

I've generalized it for the most part, the first two terms of calculus up to vector calculus wasn't hard to understand. Its just the vectors themselves, I don't fully understand how they act or function. I'll generalize it eventually. Some stuff I do get, though, like in some formulas the formula for arc length is used in the formula.

Also, I know there's harder math out there. I have to deal with it to graduate. It doesn't mean that its impossible to get stuck on a concept.

it's not about calculus being hard or easy, it's about it being annoying. calculus means practice, so i basically went out of my way to do as little of it as possible. everything interesting in calculus is taken out and put into a new field. what the heck is it with you always thinking that i'm making fun of you for, basically, being younger than me?

anyway, associate in your imagination vectors to velocity (speed and direction). an N-dimensional vector corresponds to velocity in N-dimensional space. if you're moving east at 4km/h and then you change your velocity by 6km/h toward north, which way are you going now? it's adding the 4 East vector to the 6 North vector. try to understand them together, and one dimension at a time.

a vector is a generalization of a number, in a way. a real number (or complex number, later) is a one-dimensional vector.
1d vector <=> real number <=> point on the number line
2d vector <=> two real numbers <=> two points on the number line <=> a point in a number, uh, infinite rectangle. a number plane

more generally, a vector is JUST something that you can shift around by other vectors (adding/subtracting) and stretch/scale.


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post May 14 2011, 08:30 PM
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I suppose I can agree with you with Calculus being more annoying than interesting. Even though I don't like Statistics all that much, it was more interesting to apply it to continuous distributions than just calculating it for shits and giggles.

For the most part I understand what a vector is. Its a line of direction, and certain derivatives will give you acceleration and velocity, but what gets me is when they put these vectors into an actual shape and finding information about that simple closed curve. We ended on Green's Theorem, Stokes Theorem and Divergence Theorem. I felt a little overwhelmed when such fundamental theorems were thrown at me all at the last minute like that. It makes me realize that I don't have a strong idea of what "dS" is. When I see that in vector calculus, i'm supposed to take this concept and translate it into a new form, depending on the problem, but its hard to tell what to use. Apparently my professor went too far actually, because most other courses don't even touch those theorems. Then again i'd just be seeing this eventually anyways.


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post May 14 2011, 10:22 PM
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post May 15 2011, 04:46 PM
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post May 15 2011, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(Elnendil @ May 14 2011, 04:30 PM) *

For the most part I understand what a vector is. Its a line of direction, and certain derivatives will give you acceleration and velocity, but what gets me is when they put these vectors into an actual shape and finding information about that simple closed curve.

A vector can be thought of as a point, or an arrow, or various other things. Try to think of it in different ways when confronted with a concept.

The set of polynomials form a vector space. I can add polynomials to get polynomials, and I can scale them by real numbers to get polynomials. The fact that it's infinite-dimensional, has no natural sense of "length" or "angle", and I forgot the third thing doesn't matter.

Because a set of points is a vector space, you can think of a curve as a set of vectors.

QUOTE(Elnendil @ May 14 2011, 04:30 PM) *
It makes me realize that I don't have a strong idea of what "dS" is.

It's sort of like an infinitesimal rectangle lying on the boundary. Or just a point on the boundary. That's stretchy.


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post May 15 2011, 11:54 PM
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why does tsukihime has to be filled with boring moments? i hate those bla bla bla stuff, i want to see shiki cutting lines.

dammit, what do a boy needs to do to see shiki cutting the damn lines?

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post May 16 2011, 01:59 AM
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