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[Walrus]

Was that during Gaara's legends tournament?

[Yuka]

I used Trick Room twice in a row because I couldn't remember if I used it the previous turn, not because I don't know how to use it. Besides, that wasn't even the first time I was using Trick Room. I had been using Trick Room for atleast a month prior to those matches we had, Sturm.

Xephyr, I use Trick Room all the time in 1v1s. It's not hard to set up. :|

This post has been edited by Yuka: Feb 11 2009, 09:24 PM

[lilcases]

Has everyone gotten their Shaymin?

I plan on getting my shaymin tomorrow. I'm hoping it will have good enough stats for a spot on my new team.

[Xephyr]

Yes, can we run this Shaymin thing by me again? I mean, I already have one, but I simply must get a special event one.

And Yuka, I KNOW it's not hard to set up. But a lot of Pokemon that need Trick Room can't learn it. Metagross can't, for example. But it seems all the Pokemon that don't need it can learn it. Gengar, a very fast Pokemon, can. The Pokemon that don't need it are only effective with it in a Double Battle. In a Single Battle, you must make the Pokemon use Trick Room, leaving it open to attack, then switch it out, leaving your next Pokemon vulnerable to yet another attack. That's why I don't like it that much. If Trick Room were an ability, it'd be cool. But it is a move, which is not bad in and of itself, it is bad because most of those who need it cannot learn it. Torterra offsets its poor Speed anyway because of its high Defense and Special Defense, but Pokemon such as Rhyperior are at slightly higher risk, as Rhyperior has a relatively bad Special Defense (plus, most of the types it is weak to have a mojority of special moves...), and Pokemon such as Pachirisu have only their Speed for help. Using Trick Room against a Pachirisu would mean certain death for it. But as there are powerful slow Pokemon, their are powerful fast ones, too. Scyther, Electrode, Gengar, and Garchomp all come to mind. I usually prefer Pokemon with average Speed and more well-balanced Stats. My Blaziken and Milotic are always in my team, and they have average Speed. However, the rest of their Stats are good and well-rounded. My Scizor has okay Speed, but its Attack is through the roof and besides its poor Special Attack (Which Scizor doesn't need anyways), it has great Defense and Special Defense. So it is not necessary to use Trick Room at all if you pick Pokemon accordingly.

[Yuka]

Yes, can we run this Shaymin thing by me again? I mean, I already have one, but I simply must get a special event one.

And Yuka, I KNOW it's not hard to set up. But a lot of Pokemon that need Trick Room can't learn it. Metagross can't, for example.

I kind of want to stab you in the face now. Metagross doesn't need Trick Room, he's already broken enough.

But it seems all the Pokemon that don't need it can learn it. Gengar, a very fast Pokemon, can.

If all the Pokemon that don't need Trick Room can learn it, why don't I see Sharpedos with Trick Room? Crobats? Jolteons? Aerodactyls? Electrodes? Ninjasks? Weaviles? The list could go on and on. You're just exaggerating, and I don't like it.

The Pokemon that don't need it are only effective with it in a Double Battle. In a Single Battle, you must make the Pokemon use Trick Room, leaving it open to attack, then switch it out, leaving your next Pokemon vulnerable to yet another attack. That's why I don't like it that much. If Trick Room were an ability, it'd be cool. But it is a move, which is not bad in and of itself, it is bad because most of those who need it cannot learn it.

You work around the whole "HOLY SHIT I'M USING TRICK ROOM MY POKEMON IS TOTALLY OPEN TO ATTACK DURING THIS TIME" crap by forcing switches on the turn you go to use Trick Room.

I don't like the way you attempt to justify how Trick Room cannot be used in 1v1s. Trick Room is just as lethal in 1v1s, and it's pretty easy to set up and relatively risk-free with some low-level predicting.

But as there are powerful slow Pokemon, their are powerful fast ones, too. Scyther, Electrode, Gengar, and Garchomp all come to mind.

Electrode is not a powerful fast Pokemon. Have you even looked at his attack stats? 50/80 are average at best.

Garchomp's not really fast enough to save himself from lethal ice attacks either. Replace Garchomp with Starmie. Starmie's a whore.

So it is not necessary to use Trick Room at all if you pick Pokemon accordingly.

Yes, Trick Room is unnecessary with certain teams, but that doesn't mean I'm going to use something like a Slowbro WITHOUT Trick Room. Especially when going against some of the teams people use here at LCN, Trick Room is essential when using certain Pokemon.

I'm seriously certain that Trick Room is one of the best moves to be introduced in 4th gen, and it's probably one of the most gamebreaking moves in the game.

[Hayate]

>> None of my Pokemon know Trick Room. And I haven't touched Diamond in months.

I'm wondering if I should fix that. :/

[Xephyr]

Yes, can we run this Shaymin thing by me again? I mean, I already have one, but I simply must get a special event one.

And Yuka, I KNOW it's not hard to set up. But a lot of Pokemon that need Trick Room can't learn it. Metagross can't, for example.

I kind of want to stab you in the face now. Metagross doesn't need Trick Room, he's already broken enough.

But it seems all the Pokemon that don't need it can learn it. Gengar, a very fast Pokemon, can.

If all the Pokemon that don't need Trick Room can learn it, why don't I see Sharpedos with Trick Room? Crobats? Jolteons? Aerodactyls? Electrodes? Ninjasks? Weaviles? The list could go on and on. You're just exaggerating, and I don't like it.

The Pokemon that don't need it are only effective with it in a Double Battle. In a Single Battle, you must make the Pokemon use Trick Room, leaving it open to attack, then switch it out, leaving your next Pokemon vulnerable to yet another attack. That's why I don't like it that much. If Trick Room were an ability, it'd be cool. But it is a move, which is not bad in and of itself, it is bad because most of those who need it cannot learn it.

You work around the whole "HOLY SHIT I'M USING TRICK ROOM MY POKEMON IS TOTALLY OPEN TO ATTACK DURING THIS TIME" crap by forcing switches on the turn you go to use Trick Room.

I don't like the way you attempt to justify how Trick Room cannot be used in 1v1s. Trick Room is just as lethal in 1v1s, and it's pretty easy to set up and relatively risk-free with some low-level predicting.

But as there are powerful slow Pokemon, their are powerful fast ones, too. Scyther, Electrode, Gengar, and Garchomp all come to mind.

Electrode is not a powerful fast Pokemon. Have you even looked at his attack stats? 50/80 are average at best.

Garchomp's not really fast enough to save himself from lethal ice attacks either. Replace Garchomp with Starmie. Starmie's a whore.

So it is not necessary to use Trick Room at all if you pick Pokemon accordingly.

Yes, Trick Room is unnecessary with certain teams, but that doesn't mean I'm going to use something like a Slowbro WITHOUT Trick Room. Especially when going against some of the teams people use here at LCN, Trick Room is essential when using certain Pokemon.

I'm seriously certain that Trick Room is one of the best moves to be introduced in 4th gen, and it's probably one of the most gamebreaking moves in the game.

Jeez, you act like it's you religion.

I'm not denoting that Trick Room is revolutionary, I like the idea. I just don't use the type of team that would need it, and I personally wouldn't use it. However, I still like Trick Room. It is also effective on foes that are just above your speed, too, so it can really turn the tables in battle. Oh, and about the Electrode thing, I meant to delete that...

And Starmie is a whore. >_>

[Dr Strum]

Stop using words you don't understand.

[lilcases]

I just picked up my shaymin. It's a timid shaymin with high defense and low attack.

[H. Tsukiyono]

>> None of my Pokemon know Trick Room. And I haven't touched Diamond in months.

I'm wondering if I should fix that. :/

I think I left my DS at my sister's house. D:

DAMMIT GUYS
STOP MAKING ME WANT TO PLAY POKEMON AGAIN. :( My bug box has already become a Scyther box because I was trying to breed a Scyther I wouldn't regret turning into a Scizor. :(

[Raijinili]

Rhia, I thought we decided that Leaf Blade's boost sort of offset Sceptile's lower attack stat.

If only by the way you state them, yes. Had you said something along the lines of "Maybe he knows how to counter Trick Room" you wouldn't have been a douchebag, but you had to talk like a tourneyfag.

I would consider that way to be worse :(

Jeez, you act like it's you religion.

Jeez, you act like religion is the only thing that you can get angry at someone about.

Edit: I MADE A MISTAKE PREPARE TO DIE.

This post has been edited by Raijinili: Feb 23 2009, 02:32 AM

[Rhiannon]

Maybe, I'd have to test it again.

[Yuka]

Jeez, you act like it's you religion.

Jeez, you act like religion is the only thing that you can get angry at someone about.

Nice quote Rai. Now fix it.

This post has been edited by Yuka: Feb 13 2009, 09:32 PM

[H. Tsukiyono]

Drifloon plush, which has gotten me in trouble for sticking it behind a spoiler cut. :/

I THINK I'M DERAILING THE TOPIC, BUT
THE LINK IS SELF-EXPLANATORY, KIND OF. :/

Still can't find my DS. I'm making do with making Pokemon instead of playing Pokemon, although I gave the actual plush away.

This post has been edited by H. Tsukiyono: Mar 10 2009, 09:53 PM

[lilcases]

Holy crap that is cool.