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Irysa
post May 11 2008, 11:17 AM
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What're your thoughts and inputs on them in general/what have you played?

Not "true" games? Inferior and dumbed down versions of adventure games? Atypically generic love stories for lonely virgins? Replacement of human contact for the socially inept?

Or maybe you had some GOOD things to say about them, hah.


I'm working on finishing Tsukihime and Ever17, both of which have been extremely bad. I gave up on trying to do F/SN altogether, and Yume Miru Kusuri.


Mostly I feel these significantly suffer from dialect and such being lost in translation along with the writing style not being particularly amazing in the first place. I've not seen any that really enhanced the experience significantly with their music or artwork, as I have a vivid imagination anyway. I'm still of the general opinion that most who do enjoy them a lot don't usually read normal books.


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post May 12 2008, 05:56 AM
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Too much of a wuss to play them. Afraid of hentai.


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post May 12 2008, 06:08 AM
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I enjoy visual novels :<
In FSN you just missed UBW, the greatest route ever.

In Ever 17, you haven't even been on Coco's path yet! You haven't seen why this thing is a masterpiece.

In Tsukihime, I don't know how you don't like the awesomeness of Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.

I just skipped the h-scene for Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night.

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I'm still of the general opinion that most who do enjoy them a lot don't usually read normal books.


I disagree, I read a lot too but I don't know why you think that these 3 novels are just some generic love pairing thingies.

I played a lot of Visual Novels like Narcissu, Togainu No Chi and other stuff. I just play them since I like them. Just remember this Asaph, if Ever 17 will ever be turned into a manga or anime, it'll destroy the suspense of the story.

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post May 12 2008, 07:18 AM
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In FSN you just missed UBW, the greatest route ever.
I'm not putting up with an entire full normal route of boring dialect from characters I don't care about when I already KNOW the default story just for something I "might" like.

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In Ever 17, you haven't even been on Coco's path yet! You haven't seen why this thing is a masterpiece.
If I get that far.

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In Tsukihime, I don't know how you don't like the awesomeness of Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.
Concept isn't even original, but the original concept is good yes. But concepts don't save it from having completely flat characters and ridiculous game overs.
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I disagree, I read a lot too but I don't know why you think that these 3 novels are just some generic love pairing thingies.


Name the last 3 books you read for pleasure. The majority of people I've gone and quizzed on this have accepted they don't read much, if at all, or else just said they do it for the simulated human contact (lol internet)

I'm not saying the settings as a whole are generic, I'm saying the characters and the way they act in retrospect is generic. I don't like love stories as a general thing in any fiction at all, because they're never done well.

And anyway, that's not the biggest problem I have, it's the writing. It's all barely on par with most jrpgs, which nearly never ever have worthwhile stories.

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I played a lot of Visual Novels like Narcissu, Togainu No Chi and other stuff. I just play them since I like them.
Are they better or worse than books then?

I heard Narcissu was good, was thinking of at least giving that and Planateriuam or whatever a try after I finish these two, and just dropping it altogether if I don't like them.

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if Ever 17 will ever be turned into a manga or anime, it'll destroy the suspense of the story.
There is no suspense, that's what totally annoys me. Nobody acts like they're going to die at all yet.








Interactive fiction as a whole interests me far more than visual novels as a whole.

http://adamcadre.ac/content/photo201.zip


Took me less than an hour to finish but has hit me harder than most actual books for that matter.

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post May 12 2008, 08:01 AM
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Oh man Asaph, you haven't even finished one of these TuT
I'd be happy to hear your complaints if you at least finish one.

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So?

Bad parts don't get good just because it gets better later.


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Basically, judge something on day 4 of a game :3
Or even day 3 where it was just starting to get interesting.

man If I was like that I wouldn't bother with Riviera at all :u
Or even Yggdra Union with it's long scenarios.

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post May 12 2008, 08:12 AM
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I haven't judged the game

I judged what I played.

Why is that so hard to understand?




Riviera had GAMEPLAY unlike these, which is what kept me playing for the most part till character development and such kicked in properly. And I think YU sucks and I stopped playing it before Sauce made me finish it.

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Narcissu made me start listening to music while reading, hoping that a song would sync up with the events of the story in a way that hit me like it did in Narcissu.


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post May 12 2008, 11:19 PM
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I like reading, so I enjoy this kind of games. Played F/SN, Tsukihime and Kagetsu Tohya.

I enjoyed all 3 of them.

What's Ever17? Mention of it being a masterpiece sparked my interest.

Edit: Corrected myself.

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post May 13 2008, 01:30 AM
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I like reading, so I enjoy these games.


I like playing games, that doesn't mean I like all games.

Make sense.



I actually just decided to give up on doing the initial near side route of Tsukihime. It was horrifically bad, but the far side route seems to be a bit better so far.


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post May 13 2008, 04:29 AM
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It's because it's more of a book than a game.


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post May 13 2008, 02:55 PM
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Liking reading doesn't mean you like all books.


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post May 14 2008, 04:54 AM
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It's more like, "Liking reading doesn't mean you like all types of books".


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