Aegina's Little Tirade, ...in BF34. Spoilers!! Options

[Feral Phoenix]

I just noticed when I was working on getting the script in BF34 that Aegina's assassination/rant scene has two different versions. Usually, she just says:

Aegina: That sword and tiara... I won't let you take them, too!

but in my Rosary save (and, I believe, the first time I went through the game with Roswell--though I can't be a hundred percent sure about this), I got THIS interesting little scene:

Aegina: You were the only one who was officially acknowledged... We were denied not only that status, but our lives as well...

Yggdra: W-what are you talking about?

Aegina: How we suffered to scrape by with our lives... You cannot begin to understand our pain!

Yggdra: What are you saying?!

Aegina: A naive girl like you doesn't deserve such priveleges! Justice would be to strip you of that sword and crown!

Is there a REP requirement that determines which scene you get, is it randomized, or is there some other factor involved?

[FlameSpark]

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Well, for starters, it's Luciana who says it, even though it has "Aegina" on the dialog.

And I got this:

Aegina: You...I will never accept you!
Yggdra: What!? What are you talking about!?
Yggdra: Please! Tell me the meaning of this!
Aegina: What's the use...Nothing will change if I tell you now.
Aegina: It's all too late!

Then she gets pwned by the fixed battle...

This post has been edited by Dr Sturm: May 23 2007, 07:12 PM

[Rhiannon]

You'd LIKE to think it's a "fixed battle," wouldn't you?

I got a game over.

[FlameSpark]

You'd LIKE to think it's a "fixed battle," wouldn't you?

I got a game over.

What I meant was...

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Aegina is unbeatable unless you use Crusade to finish her up.

And if you use a code to keep the enemie's RAGE at 0, the clash goes on forever...

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[Rhiannon]

There must be some sort of problem, here. Why are you and Feral constantly posting that same spoiler?

Spoilers for up to like BF44

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You are NOT told that the person in BF34 is Luciana until later. Stop saying Luciana instead of Aegina when the spoiler warnings only go up to BF34. I don't care that it's correct, it's still a spoiler.

[Another Necromancer]

I've only played through once, but with Roswell in my party I got Feral's second dialogue set. And about that backstory...

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I've gathered the Aegina and Luciana are Yggdra's illegitimate older sisters, but is there any more official backstory beyond what is said up until their deaths? I.E. Were they supposed to be killed but sought asylum in Bronqia? Just curious, and seeing as the games isn't even officially released here is Australia I don't have much to go on...

I'll stop ranting now.

[Raijinili]

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It is not specified how exactly Aegina is related to Yggdra

[Suzu Fujibayashi]

So you only get this little 'rant' if you got Roswell?

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Almost makes me think Roswell is the one you are SUPPOSED to get...

[Dr Strum]

Did you read at all? She just said she got it on her Rosary save,

[Suzu Fujibayashi]

My bad. Misunderstood a part of it...
I really wonder why I've never seen it then. I've replayed that level many times, out of boredom, and I've never seen Aegina say all that before...

[Megaolix]

Maybe mm... Maybe it depends on the number of times you defeat her? There is at least 2 BF when you're not forced to defeat her to finish the BF...

[SyphonVectorman]

Hearing that, there could be a TON of factors that could affect the scene...

The obvious one could be REP requirements. Once I start my next playthrough, I'll test out the REP before that BF.

[Feral Phoenix]

Well, if it amounts to anything, I'd gotten beaten by Rosary once before I beat her, and (largely by luck, as Roswell is REALLY hard to kill for the second time around with Yggdra) I had like two or three REP on him.

So yeah, it could be a REP requirement.

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It does also seem to me like Luciana and Aegina are illegitimate. I've heard it theorized also that because they were twins they might have gotten exiled (the whole twin superstition thing), but I doubt that because of everyone's willingness to use the Mind Change card, which depicts twins.

And the story of their actual exile and how they ended up with Gulcasa in Bronquia? Who knows... anything could have happened.

I think Nessiah might have had something to do with their getting away. He might have wanted a "spare" or two just in case Yggdra didn't work out with the Gran Centurio.

[Yuka]

(largely by luck, as Roswell is REALLY hard to kill for the second time around with Yggdra)

What are you talking about? What level was your Yggdra, 2?

[Megaolix]

Well, if it amounts to anything, I'd gotten beaten by Rosary once before I beat her, and (largely by luck, as Roswell is REALLY hard to kill for the second time around with Yggdra) I had like two or three REP on him.

So yeah, it could be a REP requirement.

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It does also seem to me like Luciana and Aegina are illegitimate. I've heard it theorized also that because they were twins they might have gotten exiled (the whole twin superstition thing), but I doubt that because of everyone's willingness to use the Mind Change card, which depicts twins.

And the story of their actual exile and how they ended up with Gulcasa in Bronquia? Who knows... anything could have happened.

I think Nessiah might have had something to do with their getting away. He might have wanted a "spare" or two just in case Yggdra didn't work out with the Gran Centurio.

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Heeey, I was the first who thought of the replacement idea...

Actually, I have a theory about what happened.

The King's wife get children, but they are twins. Naturally, they fear the people will want them dead so they won't bring bad luck. The announce to the people that the "child" died at birth, then ask someone they trust to take care of the twins.

I don't know how many years later, but Yggdra is now born. As she start growing older, let's say when she's 1 year-old, people begin to see similarities between her and the twins (it's not like they could have passed all their life without being seen).

Eventually, the secret is found out, and people want to see them dead. The twins flees, old enough to understand what is going on.

Thus, when offered the chance, they want revenge.

I could have wrote more details, but I plan to use this theory...

Well, I think it's a good theory. What do you think?

This post has been edited by Megaolix: Jun 25 2007, 09:42 PM