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> SPOILER! BF17-3 Question on how to beat Gulcasa, Big Spoiler Against the Dragon Knight
General Moondoggie
post Feb 17 2007, 05:22 AM
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So how do you do it? His Genocide is mean and I thought of restarting the game to collect all secret items from BF1 to BF16, but he just run over me ahen I get to him. Plus no unit has any advantage over him! That danged me so much.
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post Feb 17 2007, 05:44 AM
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There is a thread for tips for Gulcasa. It is pinned.


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General Moondoggie
post Feb 17 2007, 06:28 AM
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Yeah but this is where you don't have any powerful cards...
Ace and that other protect card, Barrier I think, is as useful as a twig.... plus you don't have any archers in BF 17...
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post Feb 17 2007, 06:30 AM
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More than half of the bullet points in that thread are available to you in BF17.


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General Moondoggie
post Feb 18 2007, 01:46 AM
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I'ved read the post and it seems it's aking me to ALMOST rely on luck to win plus use Ace, Chariot, Shield Barrier, and Rosary's Luck. And even if you manage to corner him with Revolution....
Wow. I got it! Nice strategy! So tell me: How did you win? Go passive then unleash all against Gulcasa and hope it hits? No offence but won't that take at least a week of repeated lose and try again?
Ah oh well....

And what happens when any of your extra characters lose morale as in 0 morale? Does it mean that you won't be able to use them anymore?

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post Feb 18 2007, 01:59 AM
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When did it say anything about relying on luck?


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General Moondoggie
post Feb 18 2007, 02:04 AM
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Forget about that. Sorry, but I got this crazy idea. Is it possible to crittically hit him (the head goes down) in BF 17?
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post Feb 18 2007, 02:14 AM
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... Yes. Just like with almost every other battle with anyone anywhere in the game, it is possible to critical hit him.


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post Feb 18 2007, 07:39 AM
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Unless you see them having the A.S Shield or S.S Shield or whatever... Or Avoid Critical and some other things... Anyone is critable. But really, if you rely on getting a critical... You will be owned so badly. <_<

Gulcasa the 1st time just seems intimidating, you just need a little skill, tactics, and our good friend luck.

And also, NO ONE DIES FOREVER. Unless it's Milanor or Yggdra, a 'Guest' character, or if the Conditions of Defeat say 'If anyone dies...' otherwise, when a unit hits 0 Morale they Withdraw from the BF getting a Zero Reset (Lose all current EXP) and will have 1 Morale the next BF.


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post Feb 18 2007, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE
and our good friend luck.

If you are relying on luck to win any of the battles, stop playing the game now.


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post Feb 18 2007, 08:55 AM
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You have to say it, Gulcasa's a beast when you first fight him. Luck won't really get you anywhere, it'll take skill and stragety. If you play your cards right *sorry, I couldn't resist* you might be able to kill him quickly with a powerful card rather than taking several turns trying your hardest to win each time with weaker cards. My strongest is always Steal, just strong enough to take out everyone in one hit, well, almost, but I mopped up that battle field with it anyways.
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post Feb 18 2007, 05:32 PM
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I'm not saying to rely on real-life luck, but hey, luck never hurt any did it?

And Ryo speaks truth. When fighting the boss of a BF you should use your strongest cards, the real hard part of killing Gulcasa is killing him before he Genocides you to hell. Which if he is at the end of a long Union, or is in a long Union, he most definantly WILL use Genocide.


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General Moondoggie
post Feb 19 2007, 02:48 AM
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Sorry but they are right. Luck won't get me anywhere...
Unless I'm playing on an emulator...
Anyway I found that Ortega's equips are very useful. This axe he has I stole from him has a "1 on 1 = win" marked on it.
And so here I go... This will be a long game... Oh BOY....
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post Feb 19 2007, 02:51 AM
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... The thread that I pointed you to mentioned "1 on 1 = win" effects, and you said there was nothing in that thread that would help. I am now closing this thread because you are ignoring all help I try to give, also, because this thread shouldn't really exist in the first place.


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