DHE World Guidance Translations, for people who Japan not good Options

[Walrus]

Since PPA's been PPA, we now have access to the World Guidance book and will be working on translating passages of interest. They'll be posted here(in later posts, since keeping them together won't fit).

THE BOOK LIKES TO USE A BUNCH OF WORDS THAT MEAN THE SAME THINGS AS OTHER WORDS AND I'M MORE SURE NOW ABOUT WHAT WORDS I SHOULD BE USING BUT I'M LEAVING THIS SECTION HERE JUST IN CASE ANYONE HAS ANY COMMENTS:

神々-'the gods.' We all know who they are, but for whatever reason, everyone in the games talks about them like they're still alive, even though they died back in Ragnarok(every game takes place after it). If "the gods" shows up in something talking about stuff after Ragnarok, it probably just means the Magi. If it shows up when talking about the people that made the surface worlds and stuff, it's the gods. They're apparently computers.

守護天使-'guardian angel.' The Heaven's Gate entry thinks this is "Archangel," but Kitten used the term once(supposedly).

地上-'above ground,' the plane of existence that the surface worlds(地上世界) exist in, so it's the surface. You could think of it as a big ring/shell that wraps around the underworld(which is infinite...maybe it actually wraps around the heavens :U), with Asgard on the other side.

冥府-directly translates as 'hades' or 'realm of the dead.' By now it's obvious that the games use "the underworld" as its meaning, but it apparently doesn't describe the entire place.

魔界-'demonworld', this is the whole place, but it's rarely spoken about. I'm pretty sure Zolgonark/Hades just owns most of it, so a lot of it falls under his name. I'M GOING TO CALL IT UTGARD BECAUSE IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF SHINKAI/ASGARD

魔神-'demon gods'. The book calls Zorgy one, but I don't think they have a proper title yet in the localized games. I don't think any others have appeared in the series yet.

魔物-'demonthings', seems to fit with what everyone calls "demons." It even mentions Slimes and Skeletons. THOSE ARE TOTALLY DEMONS. This looks like the term they use when referring to tangible ones.

魔族-'demontribes,' shows up when they talk about demons as a species/race/whatever.

Japan loves adding title and whatnot to their names, but English takes up way more space, so the localizations usually drop them unless they're being silly and using extra words. Some of the localized titles are slightly different from what Japan used, but I think I left everything as their English equivalents.

For whatever reason Japan can't stick to just quotations or brackets or parentheses, so I'll be copying whatever they do for the appropriate words/phrases in the translations. Omittableyetstillkindofimportantwords will go in [] brackets inside the sentences, and stuff in parentheses past the period are just my notes on how silly sounding or confusing the passage/sentence was.

[H. Tsukiyono]

third sentence, page 113

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守護天使だけに限らず、天使たちは神界でのみ
生み出される存在で、一度創造された天使は、たとえ神々であ
ろうと抹消することはできない。

Not limited to guardian/protector angels, angels are entities that can only be brought into existence in heaven; once an angel is created, even the gods may not erase them.

... I have no fucking idea what is going on with the third sentence on the Accursed entry. The 魔神 sprinkled willy-nilly is just really screwing with my ability to parse that particular trainwreck. Sorry. :/ It looks like something along the lines of demons establishing pecking order based on strength, and the Accursed are the highest/high-ranking?? of them? Also something about demons picking subordinates dumber than they are. I think. Here's my attempted dissection:

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インフェルノスは魔神の次に高位の存在で、
infernos ha majin no tsugi ni koui(high-ranking? Eminence?) no sonzai de,
the Accursed are demons of the highest rank?

魔神に次ぐ力を持ち魔神に従属または隷属している者であるが、
majin ni tsugu chikara wo mochi majin ni shuuzoku shiteiru mono de aru ga,
demons are made subordinate to demons of the next higher strength?

または魔神を凌駕する力を持ちながらも、
mata ha majin wo ryouga suru chikara wo mochinagara mo,
still, demons who possess superior strength (?)

魔神たりえる知性を持ち合わせていない者たちのことを指す。
majin tarieru (足りる？worthy?) chisei (intelligence) wo mochi awaseteinai (not matched) monotachi no koto wo sasu.
Will select subordinates who do not match their intellect?

I have somebody coming in tomorrow who might be able to help me out with this, even if she doesn't speak a lick of English; she might be able to phrase it in a less confusing way. If all else fails my dad's flying in on Thursday.

Also sorry about inserting the semi-colon in the page 113 bit. Japan seems to be indiscriminately pro-comma splice but I cannot abide seeing it in English, despite how I probably do it more often than I realize.