DHE World Guidance Translations, for people who Japan not good Options

[Walrus]

Since PPA's been PPA, we now have access to the World Guidance book and will be working on translating passages of interest. They'll be posted here(in later posts, since keeping them together won't fit).

THE BOOK LIKES TO USE A BUNCH OF WORDS THAT MEAN THE SAME THINGS AS OTHER WORDS AND I'M MORE SURE NOW ABOUT WHAT WORDS I SHOULD BE USING BUT I'M LEAVING THIS SECTION HERE JUST IN CASE ANYONE HAS ANY COMMENTS:

神々-'the gods.' We all know who they are, but for whatever reason, everyone in the games talks about them like they're still alive, even though they died back in Ragnarok(every game takes place after it). If "the gods" shows up in something talking about stuff after Ragnarok, it probably just means the Magi. If it shows up when talking about the people that made the surface worlds and stuff, it's the gods. They're apparently computers.

守護天使-'guardian angel.' The Heaven's Gate entry thinks this is "Archangel," but Kitten used the term once(supposedly).

地上-'above ground,' the plane of existence that the surface worlds(地上世界) exist in, so it's the surface. You could think of it as a big ring/shell that wraps around the underworld(which is infinite...maybe it actually wraps around the heavens :U), with Asgard on the other side.

冥府-directly translates as 'hades' or 'realm of the dead.' By now it's obvious that the games use "the underworld" as its meaning, but it apparently doesn't describe the entire place.

魔界-'demonworld', this is the whole place, but it's rarely spoken about. I'm pretty sure Zolgonark/Hades just owns most of it, so a lot of it falls under his name. I'M GOING TO CALL IT UTGARD BECAUSE IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF SHINKAI/ASGARD

魔神-'demon gods'. The book calls Zorgy one, but I don't think they have a proper title yet in the localized games. I don't think any others have appeared in the series yet.

魔物-'demonthings', seems to fit with what everyone calls "demons." It even mentions Slimes and Skeletons. THOSE ARE TOTALLY DEMONS. This looks like the term they use when referring to tangible ones.

魔族-'demontribes,' shows up when they talk about demons as a species/race/whatever.

Japan loves adding title and whatnot to their names, but English takes up way more space, so the localizations usually drop them unless they're being silly and using extra words. Some of the localized titles are slightly different from what Japan used, but I think I left everything as their English equivalents.

For whatever reason Japan can't stick to just quotations or brackets or parentheses, so I'll be copying whatever they do for the appropriate words/phrases in the translations. Omittableyetstillkindofimportantwords will go in [] brackets inside the sentences, and stuff in parentheses past the period are just my notes on how silly sounding or confusing the passage/sentence was.

[Rhiannon]

NO TRANSLATIONS IN THIS POST SORRY

Hi Rhia needs a Tsuki or more direct object markers to deal with this horrible third sentence (it's even bolded for speedy finding!). I get totally lost the moment I meet a verb after the first comma because I don't know who's doing what to who or where. I also don't know if that's supposed to be だけ　に限らず or だけに　限らず. Which probably isn't helping with the whole confusion thing.

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• Dept. Heaven 種族名鑑: 3 守護天使

守護天使とは、神々の祝福により特別な素質を与えられた
”天使族”　の一種である。彼女たちの主な任務は、神界兵と連
携して、神界の最終防衛線である「ヘヴンズゲート」を哨戒す
ることである。守護天使だけに限らず、天使たちは神界でのみ
生み出される存在で、一度創造された天使は、たとえ神々であ
ろうと抹消することはできない。彼ら天使が　”死ぬ”　のは、神
界が消滅したときが、告死天使や上位魔族など特別な力を有す
る存在に倒された場合のみとなる。そのため、天使創造という
行為は、神界でも最重要検討項目の1つとされ、これにより生
み出された天使には神々への絶対的忠誠が要
求された。万が一、天使が重大な問題を起
こした場合、力を剥奪または封印して
神界から追放する　”堕天”　という
万法で断罪されることになる。

ユグドラたちがヘヴンズゲート
で遭遇した守護天使マリエッタ
は、今作「ナイツ」で犯した罪
により堕天することになる。そ
して別次元であるリヴィエラの
世界で冥府の者と関わること
で、上位魔族のインフェルノス
へと変異し、エクセルたちの前
に現れるのだ。

Also 113 is the true exciting page with the actual exciting information. JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS.

Either I'm horrible at this or I just keep choosing the wrong things to translate. Bolded sentence is ridiculously confusing to me and underlined part is just... I don't have a clue what that's supposed to be and dictionaries aren't helping.

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• The Accursed

冥府において、「強大な力を持つもの」たち
を称したもの。魔神自らの肢体を切り出し
て創られた上位魔族。インフェルノスは魔
神の次に高位の存在で、魔神に次ぐ力を持
ち魔神に従属または隷属している者である
が、または魔神を凌駕する力を持ちながら
も、魔神たりえる知性を持ち合わせていな
い者たちのことを指す。

This post has been edited by Rhiannon: Aug 28 2011, 05:48 PM