QUOTE(Yuka @ Dec 1 2008, 07:32 PM)

Then why do you play Pokemon? Pokemon is totally luck-based.
The is SOME luck base factors in pokémon, such as critical hits and stuff with low accuracy, but it also takes brainpower and knowledge of game mechanics to be able to put together a good team. And pokémon is about statistics, like, I might put in an attack that has 80% accuracy, but not necessarily anything lower.
At least for me, any pokémon teams I make don't heavily rely on anything that was lower than 100% accuracy. The only moves I think I have on my team that rely on chance are Hydro Pump (85%) and Hypnosis (70%+Glasses bonus), and I generally don't use those moves unless I'm in a position in which I can't win any other way.
QUOTE(Irysa @ Dec 1 2008, 10:37 PM)

Are you completely retarded? Underdog Exodia deck is also pathetically weak and luck based. What if I don't draw underdog for 10 turns? Oh whoop I have some acceptable normal monsters, I'm sure you can't possibly get a tribute out and wipe my defence off the planet.
First off, no, thanks for asking. No need to be rude.
The probability of you getting a HotU is 7.5% when you have 40 cards in your deck, and have 6 chances to get it, each draw increasing the chance you will get it.
And what if you get it the first turn? There are 4 cards in that deck that will cease your drawing [one of which is on the field], meaning that you will draw an average of 11 cards a turn, giving you numerous options to stonewall. And, frankly, the attack stats of non-effect monsters can keep someone at bay for a long time.
If I'm lucky, that gives me 4 turns to beat you. And less if you get Exodia pieces fast.
QUOTE(Irysa @ Dec 1 2008, 10:37 PM)

Plus I have to stop if I draw Exodia middle piece AND other Underdog cards.
If you seriously think it is unbalanced you probably need to quit YGO, it's like calling Destiny Board unbalanced.
The game is incredibly luck based as it is, it's a deck of cards that you have to RANDOMLY SHUFFLE. You can only hope you get what you need.
Destiny Board is far from unbalanced, just as pretty much all theme-decks are. All I'm saying is that it isn't fair for a deck that wins by lucking out should beat someone who is actually good at the game, even if it's only once by accident.
Walrus is OBVIOUSLY a better pokémon player than I am, and it wouldn't be fair for me to say I'm better than him because I lucked out and got a crucial critical hit, or whatever [if that happened].
QUOTE(Irysa @ Dec 1 2008, 10:37 PM)

tl;dr there is nothing wrong with FTKs or whatnot because they are absolute garbage unless the person using them lucks out. If you can't take the fact that a game relies on luck instead of purely on skill to play then go play something else.
But the thing is, is that they CAN luck out, and there is an at least decent chance that they will. No one makes a deck and uses it competitively unless they can win with it. [Or are stupid.]
And non-FTK/Exodia/OTK decks DO rely on skill. Putting together a deck that can work in many situations is a reflection of skill. Sure, I could draw a hand with all tributes and lose, but my deck is made to prevent stuff like that from happening.
If all you do is download a .dek, and rely completely on luck, you really don't deserve to play.
I spent HOURS on my deck [when I used to play, the one I have now is just a copy of what I had] and TONS of money, and being bested by a luck-based, overpowered deck really sucks. I played in a few tourneys, and it happened a few times. And frankly, I'm still a bit butthurt about it.
I'm just saying that for a tourney, OTK's should be banned, purely for the sanity of others.
EDIT: And if anyone wants me to take a look at their deck and give a tourneyfag opinion, send me a PM or add me on AIM. I'd be more than happy to help you out.
This post has been edited by Aether: Dec 3 2008, 09:03 PM