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post Nov 28 2008, 08:43 PM
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Could we have one, much like the pokémon tournament?

I'd arrange and set it up and stuff, but I'm not sure if I have any authority to do so.
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post Dec 3 2008, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(Yuka @ Dec 1 2008, 07:32 PM) *

Then why do you play Pokemon? Pokemon is totally luck-based.


The is SOME luck base factors in pokémon, such as critical hits and stuff with low accuracy, but it also takes brainpower and knowledge of game mechanics to be able to put together a good team. And pokémon is about statistics, like, I might put in an attack that has 80% accuracy, but not necessarily anything lower.

At least for me, any pokémon teams I make don't heavily rely on anything that was lower than 100% accuracy. The only moves I think I have on my team that rely on chance are Hydro Pump (85%) and Hypnosis (70%+Glasses bonus), and I generally don't use those moves unless I'm in a position in which I can't win any other way.


QUOTE(Irysa @ Dec 1 2008, 10:37 PM) *

Are you completely retarded? Underdog Exodia deck is also pathetically weak and luck based. What if I don't draw underdog for 10 turns? Oh whoop I have some acceptable normal monsters, I'm sure you can't possibly get a tribute out and wipe my defence off the planet.



First off, no, thanks for asking. No need to be rude.

The probability of you getting a HotU is 7.5% when you have 40 cards in your deck, and have 6 chances to get it, each draw increasing the chance you will get it.

And what if you get it the first turn? There are 4 cards in that deck that will cease your drawing [one of which is on the field], meaning that you will draw an average of 11 cards a turn, giving you numerous options to stonewall. And, frankly, the attack stats of non-effect monsters can keep someone at bay for a long time.

If I'm lucky, that gives me 4 turns to beat you. And less if you get Exodia pieces fast.

QUOTE(Irysa @ Dec 1 2008, 10:37 PM) *


Plus I have to stop if I draw Exodia middle piece AND other Underdog cards.

If you seriously think it is unbalanced you probably need to quit YGO, it's like calling Destiny Board unbalanced.

The game is incredibly luck based as it is, it's a deck of cards that you have to RANDOMLY SHUFFLE. You can only hope you get what you need.



Destiny Board is far from unbalanced, just as pretty much all theme-decks are. All I'm saying is that it isn't fair for a deck that wins by lucking out should beat someone who is actually good at the game, even if it's only once by accident.

Walrus is OBVIOUSLY a better pokémon player than I am, and it wouldn't be fair for me to say I'm better than him because I lucked out and got a crucial critical hit, or whatever [if that happened].

QUOTE(Irysa @ Dec 1 2008, 10:37 PM) *


tl;dr there is nothing wrong with FTKs or whatnot because they are absolute garbage unless the person using them lucks out. If you can't take the fact that a game relies on luck instead of purely on skill to play then go play something else.


But the thing is, is that they CAN luck out, and there is an at least decent chance that they will. No one makes a deck and uses it competitively unless they can win with it. [Or are stupid.]

And non-FTK/Exodia/OTK decks DO rely on skill. Putting together a deck that can work in many situations is a reflection of skill. Sure, I could draw a hand with all tributes and lose, but my deck is made to prevent stuff like that from happening.

If all you do is download a .dek, and rely completely on luck, you really don't deserve to play.

I spent HOURS on my deck [when I used to play, the one I have now is just a copy of what I had] and TONS of money, and being bested by a luck-based, overpowered deck really sucks. I played in a few tourneys, and it happened a few times. And frankly, I'm still a bit butthurt about it.

I'm just saying that for a tourney, OTK's should be banned, purely for the sanity of others.



EDIT: And if anyone wants me to take a look at their deck and give a tourneyfag opinion, send me a PM or add me on AIM. I'd be more than happy to help you out.

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Aether   YGO! Tournament   Nov 28 2008, 08:43 PM
Yuka   I don't think there are enough people here who...   Nov 28 2008, 10:01 PM
Aether   You're probably right, but there's no harm...   Nov 29 2008, 12:05 AM
Irysa   There aren't enough. Me, Sauce, You, Walrus, ...   Nov 29 2008, 12:17 AM
aerozero   I'll play if the tournament is this weekend.   Nov 29 2008, 12:35 AM
Irysa   You do know how to play and have a deck right? I...   Nov 29 2008, 12:52 AM
Enzd   Hey, I'd be interested. :(   Nov 29 2008, 01:16 AM
aerozero   I made a deck already, and I've played a coupl...   Nov 29 2008, 05:08 AM
Irysa   It's pretty easy to get the hang of, but I don...   Nov 29 2008, 05:24 AM
DustyHaru   I kust need to practice making a few more decks, a...   Nov 29 2008, 01:49 PM
Aether   Okay, I'd recommend three brackets, an Advance...   Nov 29 2008, 07:07 PM
DustyHaru   there's a way to get around the ban list? -_-   Nov 29 2008, 07:28 PM
Yuka   Yeah, you can actually chose the rule set it uses ...   Nov 29 2008, 08:08 PM
Irysa   Why the fuck would you ban OTKs? They're horr...   Nov 29 2008, 11:59 PM
Aether   Decks like the Heart of the Underdog/Exodia are so...   Dec 1 2008, 12:36 AM
Irysa   Decks like the Heart of the Underdog/Exodia are s...   Dec 2 2008, 03:37 AM
Neon_the_Chao   Bottom line: Exodia pieces and Destiny Board blow ...   Dec 2 2008, 03:13 PM
Yuka   Then why do you play Pokemon? Pokemon is totally l...   Dec 2 2008, 12:32 AM
Enzd   69 cards? Why does it need that many for it to kic...   Dec 3 2008, 09:42 AM
H. Tsukiyono   It shouldn't. :( Someone might want to do some...   Dec 3 2008, 03:19 PM
Yuka   Quit being such an eyesore. In those four turns be...   Dec 3 2008, 10:17 PM
Irysa   What, and it doesn't take understanding of...   Dec 4 2008, 04:56 AM
Raijinili   That's like saying that if you had a card that...   Dec 9 2008, 01:47 PM
Aether   [Insert what Rai said here, cut for length.] Y...   Dec 12 2008, 06:51 PM
Neon_the_Chao   www.forumammo.com/.../picard-no-facepalm.jpg   Dec 9 2008, 03:33 PM
Greifer   I might be interested in playing, as long as it...   Dec 11 2008, 01:44 AM
Irysa   RFP is about as close as this gets to meta.   Dec 11 2008, 04:10 PM
Neon_the_Chao   Meta?   Dec 11 2008, 07:24 PM
Greifer   Well, I follow the ban list, so I run a counter-me...   Dec 15 2008, 03:05 AM
Kotlol   My expirences of Yugioh is about having stragey, l...   Dec 16 2008, 07:10 PM
Yuka   Except Magician of Faith is banned, among other th...   Dec 17 2008, 04:41 PM
Aether   ...but I do know MoF is banned. Which sucks. :...   Dec 19 2008, 12:36 PM
Yuka   No. The last thing the game needs is reusable Heav...   Dec 19 2008, 05:51 PM
Aether   I always liked Traditional when I could Raigeki/HF...   Dec 23 2008, 12:37 AM
Greifer   That's why they gave us Lightning Vortex. An...   Dec 23 2008, 03:13 AM
Greifer   Anyway, it seems as if they meta is shifting. DAD ...   Dec 23 2008, 03:15 AM
Yuka   Anyway, it seems as if they meta is shifting. DAD...   Dec 24 2008, 09:46 PM
Raijinili   The main problem with that is that decent FTKs are...   Dec 23 2008, 04:53 AM
Aether   You know, you're right. Konami doesn...   Dec 24 2008, 09:36 PM
Greifer   I'm actually building a Neos Wiseman-based dec...   Jan 1 2009, 03:56 PM


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