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jcdietz03
post Sep 4 2008, 09:44 PM
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post Oct 17 2008, 07:55 PM
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Yet another CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENT!
If you're a democrat you think that; if you're a republican you think the opposite. I heard a right-wing talk show host saying exactly the reverse thing.
This tells me the debate is really a tie.
However, when you look at online polls almost no one (usually around 5%) think it was a tie. Most vote for either candidate. Even "I don't know" gets more votes than "it was a tie."
By the way, on these online polls, Barack has about 10% more than McCain. Which also tells me it's a tie. If it wasn't a tie, the difference would be bigger.

Here's an article discussing "who won the debate."

Barack Obama sat on the lead and didn't say too much interesting. I tend to remember his statement: "100% of your ads are negative." John McCain said during the debate that this isn't true. I didn't bother checking it but I believe it's false too. I think probably over 50% of John McCain ads are negative. The same with Barack Obama.

I like the McCain line: "If you wanted to run against George Bush, you should've run four years ago." Barack had a decent answer to this but McCain wins just by saying the line.

The moderator said that USA education costs the most and has some of the lowest results in the developed world. This was not challenged by either candidate. Amazing. I wonder if it's really true. This shows education is a difficult problem not solved easily. I think vouchers will work. I also think charter schools will work. Just try anything at this point. I think parents are a big part of the picture too.

Intrade has developed financial instruments that track the performance of political candidates. For example, you can write an "Obama" contract. You recieve a premium (varies) for writing this contract and must pay the holder $100 if Obama is the president. You pay nothing if Obama is not the president. You can go long and short these contracts just like option contracts. There is a corresponding McCain contract.

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jcdietz03   US President/VP Discussion Thread   Sep 4 2008, 09:44 PM
Dr Sturm   I'm voting for Obama because he supports my be...   Sep 4 2008, 09:58 PM
aerozero   I wanted to vote for Colbert but he didn't run...   Sep 4 2008, 11:53 PM
Sigmund   I think that the US needs the change. I'm vot...   Sep 5 2008, 12:03 AM
aerozero   Wow, I didn't know that you were from Iceland ...   Sep 5 2008, 12:41 AM
Sigmund   Wow, I didn't know that you were from Iceland...   Sep 5 2008, 04:13 PM
Irysa   RON PAUL   Sep 5 2008, 01:23 AM
DustyHaru   I'm not american either. doesn't mean I...   Sep 5 2008, 02:39 AM
P.P.A.   I'm not American but if I was I would have vot...   Sep 5 2008, 01:06 PM
jcdietz03   Communism has a number of problems I'll not di...   Sep 5 2008, 02:49 PM
Raijinili   Communism has a number of problems I'll not d...   Sep 7 2008, 05:11 AM
sandpenguin   -->Yep, sided with Rai this time....especially...   Sep 7 2008, 04:25 PM
jcdietz03   There was a blowup about the number of houses John...   Sep 8 2008, 12:45 PM
Dr Sturm   You can find it on Wikipedia. It's required th...   Sep 8 2008, 09:33 PM
jcdietz03   McCain - 40.4M Palin - Not on Wikipedia. Sturm, h...   Sep 9 2008, 12:34 AM
Dr Sturm   Biden takes care of a sick mother, and commutes to...   Sep 9 2008, 02:09 AM
jcdietz03   Sarah Palin is impressing me less and less. I...   Sep 17 2008, 07:18 PM
Dr Sturm   I can only assume the location of this drilling i...   Sep 17 2008, 08:07 PM
jcdietz03   Abortion is more controversial but less important....   Sep 18 2008, 02:50 AM
Dr Sturm   Despite your claim that abortion is less important...   Sep 18 2008, 03:51 AM
jcdietz03   Drilling: People are more important than animals. ...   Sep 18 2008, 02:42 PM
Dr Sturm   Well, I don't know what that has to do with d...   Sep 18 2008, 05:39 PM
jcdietz03   On the drilling thing we'll just have to agree...   Sep 18 2008, 11:37 PM
Raijinili   God, reading your posts is like reading the entire...   Sep 20 2008, 09:37 AM
jcdietz03   Obama is winning. Note the recent upswing in the ...   Oct 10 2008, 11:57 PM
Dr Sturm   Three reasons why that poll does not say Obama wil...   Oct 11 2008, 12:03 AM
jcdietz03   A) Only a certain demographic takes part in polit...   Oct 11 2008, 03:18 AM
Wally   Why does Firefox think Obama is a misspelled word ...   Oct 11 2008, 08:31 PM
Sigmund   Why does Firefox think Obama is a misspelled word...   Oct 14 2008, 02:26 AM
Raijinili   Because McCain is a goddamn American, you goddamn ...   Oct 11 2008, 01:15 AM
Dr Sturm   Depends how the poll was done. If it was random s...   Oct 11 2008, 07:22 AM
Sepharan   Not like I can vote, but Ralph Nader appeals most ...   Oct 14 2008, 08:31 PM
DustyHaru   I VOTE FOR THE STAY PUFT MARSHMALLOW MAN KEEP THE ...   Oct 15 2008, 01:29 AM
Sigmund   Did anyone watch the Debate? Obama kept his cool...   Oct 17 2008, 01:13 PM
Dr Sturm   Wow. More stupidity. Presidential debates are not ...   Oct 17 2008, 10:25 PM
Raijinili   The ads I saw from McCain were much worse in disho...   Oct 19 2008, 04:06 AM
Sigmund   The ads I saw from McCain were much worse in dish...   Oct 19 2008, 01:25 PM
Dr Sturm   And what can any president do about that? No he...   Oct 19 2008, 05:12 PM
jcdietz03   The president can affect oil prices. The presiden...   Oct 20 2008, 11:36 AM
Neon_the_Chao   I vote for NADER. On a serious note, McCain is ju...   Oct 20 2008, 11:46 AM
Dr Sturm   Has nothing to do with the price of oil now. As h...   Oct 20 2008, 01:57 PM
Raijinili   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbuf90mcAsc...   Oct 22 2008, 03:42 AM
Dr Sturm   And the war had something to do with 9/11.   Oct 22 2008, 03:53 AM
Raijinili   Oh, I momentarily forgot about the other war there...   Oct 22 2008, 04:32 AM
Lux   P.P.A. for president.   Nov 3 2008, 12:34 PM
Neon_the_Chao   -.-   Nov 3 2008, 05:04 PM
jcdietz03   Obama will win. He's the favorite anyway. So...   Nov 4 2008, 05:23 PM
Yuka   Obama will win. He's the favorite anyway. S...   Nov 4 2008, 08:52 PM
Dr Sturm   I voted for Nader.   Nov 4 2008, 08:14 PM
Wally   Don't blame me, I voted for Liberty Prime.   Nov 5 2008, 04:29 AM
Dr Sturm   McCain's a PUSSY.   Nov 5 2008, 04:47 AM
Lux   McCain's a PUSSY. Amen. I'm still sad ...   Nov 5 2008, 10:23 PM
Enzd   I'm so glad my random pick won. I think.   Nov 6 2008, 07:13 AM
Raijinili   Potusa is spelled the same as Pao Pao Pai   Nov 6 2008, 07:40 AM


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