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Yuka
post Feb 17 2008, 12:08 AM
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http://gonintendo.com/?p=35576

http://www.sting.co.jp/knights/index.htm

Sting's been having a countdown, and apparently Famitsu tells us what it's for before Sting does.

By the way, I'd rather none of you asked about the Dept. Heaven Episodes thing. All we've speculated on that is that somehow this is related to Riviera, Yggdra Union, and Baroque.

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post Aug 3 2008, 09:20 AM
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After some time of reading, pics, brawls, and such on this thread, I find an urge to write my opinion in this *conflict* which in a never-ending loop. I will make this as simple as I can, so let's start it.....

There are many opinion regarding this game and it's correlation to the Riviera, Yggdra and the *fillintheblanks* game, such as....:

a)All of the story in all of the saga happens in a same universe, in a same timeline, in DIFFERENT points in the land, which in our language means, HISTORY. In this theory, each of the story in the 4 games make a significance move in the saga itself.....

Riviera: A perv GrimAngel falls, stirring up the place, become hero with his 'Fallen Soldier' sword (Ein-Herjar), living with the sprites, DEAD.

Yggdra: Thousand of years after the story in Riviera happened.....a cute princess escaped from being tormented by her cohorts, finding a lot of allies, taking back capital, becomes queen, launch a counter-offensive charge, sacked the enemy capital, return, met with 'The False Messenger', kill him with Ein's sword and.....

From this the saga actually divides, depending on which option you choose in the game, "Becoming Arthuria" or "Rebelion Against The Gods"

And that's all the conclusion that I can make about the series...for this theory to work, we need to know what the storyline of game No. 3 is. This theory solves the baffling question about 'Marietta' 'Heaven's Gate' and the fate of the Einherjar.

BUT, why is Marietta EVIIIIL in Riviera (Assume 2000 years ago) while she is the typical Archangel in Yggdra, 2000 years AFTER? Question, eh?

b)All of the story happens inside a parallel universe, same playground, different characters with NO connections met between the four.....many people in this site adopts this, as I can see....

This theory meanwhile, solves the question about Bronchitis? No, Brongaa, Mulminams, Paltina, location of the World Tree and other factors that you might think appropriate. But, it also creates the above, questions about Marietta and Co, which Suzu and Feral fight dearly for.

c)The story happens in a DESCENDING ORDER....it means Game No. 4-3-2-1 in a manner. In the same universe and timeline. (NEW THEORY FOUND WHILE THINKING BLANKLY)

Okay, Knights In The Nightmare starts first.....something happen in No. 3 *and* the story of Yggdra starts. Gran Centurio is NOT Einherjar, it's another different *uber* sword. As usual, beat the crap out AND fight with the gods......and ultimately fail....which the gods will call as 'Ragnarok' with the Gods fighting with the forces of 'Eviiiill' namely 'Paltina's Army' yep, no kidding, no demons or goblins in it.

So, the gods angry with the Paltinans and killed them all... (Nuclear Winter maybe?) To make the land fertile again, they put the sprites into the deserted land.....and promise to return to them again....and that is Ein.

This theory meanwhile solves the question of Marietta, (Lose to Yggdra, gods angry, make her fall, sad, becomes evil, corrupting the people....yaddayaddayadda Tethyh) and also the 'missing civilization' mystery.

d)HUMAN BRAIN. Yep, we all are fighting for a moot point. Each one have their own thoughts and perspective on this game. The developers and we, the fans have their own ways and ideas to fill in the hole in the theory they adopt.....and we just can't fight our own CREATIVITY and EGO about this.

Well, long post eh? I try to make my conclusion about this *conflict* in an all encompassing view about the game. For me personally, I choose the option 'A' but will not raise a middle finger if someone choose B, C or D. For me, it's not important to fight for this......@#@%%@!! It's better to live with it rather than resisting it whole.

But one thing for sure.....I love my theory about 'C' option....somewhat fit.....as it solves down a lot of questions about the saga, but who knows, it depends on the person.....

P/S: Discuss about this.....I'll accept anything but be fair, don't mock me for my statement....I just writing what I think about this....... YOU TWO, STOP FIGHTING LIKE A NO-BRAINER. Phew, it's been long to not writing a post at this length!


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Yuka   Knights in the Nightmare   Feb 17 2008, 12:08 AM
Ebe   WOW she has fancy armor, it looks almost organic. ...   Feb 17 2008, 12:21 AM
Rhiannon   Maria looks awesome. AND OH STING THIS LOOKS EVEN...   Feb 17 2008, 12:27 AM
Yuka   <Rhiannon> Riviera is episode 1 <Rhiannon...   Feb 17 2008, 12:31 AM
Irysa   Lol, turn based real time strategy. Silly sting.   Feb 17 2008, 02:18 PM
sandpenguin   3'rd episode of the 'Midgard Crysis'. ...   Feb 17 2008, 02:23 PM
Irysa   IV is Episode 4.   Feb 17 2008, 02:30 PM
Ebe   Well, so the speculation begins again, that didn...   Feb 17 2008, 03:39 PM
jcdietz03   There are some weird connections- Like the Archang...   Feb 17 2008, 03:44 PM
Yuka   10PM Eastern is about 8 AM Japan time. And appare...   Feb 17 2008, 07:06 PM
Wally   Mind is blown. It would be awesome if this mean...   Feb 17 2008, 07:43 PM
Rhiannon   The battle system is probably able to do turn-base...   Feb 17 2008, 07:54 PM
P.P.A.   :o I STILL NEED TO FINISH YU   Feb 17 2008, 09:17 PM
Rhiannon   It's mesmerizing to watch the countdown. 1000...   Feb 17 2008, 10:13 PM
Raijinili   So much for my "Riviera remake heralds the ad...   Feb 18 2008, 12:33 AM
Irysa   IT'S DONE IT'S HERE   Feb 18 2008, 01:02 AM
Ebe   Well that was interesting First, the countdown fi...   Feb 18 2008, 01:03 AM
Rhiannon   DOWNLOAD PRETTY MUSIC AT WILL: http://www.sting.co...   Feb 18 2008, 01:42 AM
Megaolix   I liek the music. I can't wait to see news thi...   Feb 18 2008, 02:08 AM
Rhiannon   You want more music? Well, JAJA's blog has mus...   Feb 18 2008, 02:49 AM
Wally   Sounds sexy. I'm totally buying the soundtrac...   Feb 18 2008, 03:01 AM
Irysa   You guys buy into hype too much. You only buy sou...   Feb 18 2008, 03:05 AM
Rhiannon   You don't buy into hype enough. :( That countd...   Feb 18 2008, 03:18 AM
Wally   Although I wouldn't buy it if the rest of the...   Feb 18 2008, 03:41 AM
Irysa   Hype tends to disappoint.   Feb 18 2008, 06:12 AM
Rhiannon   Not when it's Sting!   Feb 18 2008, 06:16 AM
Irysa   Yggdra Union disappointed me greatly.   Feb 18 2008, 06:22 AM
Rhiannon   It exceeded my expectations. :(   Feb 18 2008, 08:55 AM
sandpenguin   ARGH! IT'S N-DS!!!! HOW IN...   Feb 18 2008, 10:37 AM
Yuka   ARGH! IT'S N-DS!!!! HOW I...   Feb 19 2008, 09:18 AM
Archeia   I have access to a DS, a PSP, and a GBA, so why s...   Feb 19 2008, 09:53 AM
jcdietz03   ARGH! IT'S N-DS!!!! HOW I...   Feb 20 2008, 01:44 AM
sandpenguin   Fuck you back Yuka. You just said according to wha...   Feb 19 2008, 02:11 PM
Yuka   Fuck you back Yuka. You just said according to wh...   Feb 20 2008, 07:22 AM
Irysa   Because we're not all rich buyfags or people...   Feb 19 2008, 03:50 PM
Rhiannon   Actually, what happened is I enjoyed it more than ...   Feb 20 2008, 01:03 AM
Irysa   I'm just giving feasible explanations why.   Feb 20 2008, 01:06 AM
Greifer   Lol inherited jerkiness. Interestingly enough, I...   Feb 21 2008, 01:22 AM
Feral Phoenix   QUESTION. Where does it say which Dept. Heaven ep...   Feb 22 2008, 06:14 PM
Rhiannon   It says in the pictures of the Famitsu article on ...   Feb 22 2008, 07:34 PM
Feral Phoenix   alkdgh;oaiejflaksdhg;oiweahrf WAIT WAIT HOLY SHIT...   Mar 9 2008, 08:25 PM
Rhiannon   Actually, it's Mazenda in Kitten. Sting is try...   Mar 9 2008, 08:30 PM
Feral Phoenix   Hildegarde's name is spelled the same way, and...   Mar 10 2008, 12:21 PM
Rhiannon   My point is, it's not written that way in YU, ...   Mar 10 2008, 02:36 PM
Yuka   My point is, it's not written that way in YU,...   Mar 10 2008, 08:44 PM
Suzu Fujibayashi   Or is it? Dun dun dun. Eh. I'll wait and see w...   Mar 10 2008, 04:54 PM
Suzu Fujibayashi   Reason is overrated.   Mar 10 2008, 11:01 PM
Yuka   I hate you now.   Mar 10 2008, 11:05 PM
Raijinili   Hate is overrated.   Mar 11 2008, 04:00 AM
Skie   Heh, another STING game for a handheld that I actu...   Mar 15 2008, 06:33 PM
Yuka   I do believe you have me mistaken for someone else...   Mar 16 2008, 07:37 AM
Skie   Hah, I figured as much, you're sarcastic enoug...   Mar 16 2008, 08:15 AM
Feral Phoenix   Y'know, Yuka, your words just don't hold t...   Mar 17 2008, 02:21 PM
Yuka   Y'know, Yuka, your words just don't hold ...   Mar 18 2008, 01:20 AM
P.P.A.   WHERE ARE THE MUSIC SAMPLES   Mar 17 2008, 10:04 PM
DustyHaru   *wish for wallpapers* -Dusty   Mar 17 2008, 10:40 PM
Rhiannon   MAYBE IF YOU READ THE WHOLE TOPIC YOU WOULD KNOW ...   Mar 17 2008, 10:15 PM
Skie   It is possible for games to take place in the same...   Mar 18 2008, 03:24 AM
Archeia   It is possible for games to take place in the sam...   Mar 20 2008, 05:36 AM
Irysa   Idiot Feral, they're not related at all. Whe...   Mar 18 2008, 09:53 AM
jcdietz03   World TreeThere is a world tree leaf you can find ...   Mar 19 2008, 01:52 AM
P.P.A.   I AM SORRY BUT THANK YOU RHIA   Mar 18 2008, 10:36 AM
Feral Phoenix   Now who's the idiot? They both wind up in Hea...   Mar 19 2008, 12:23 PM
Skie   Who are you calling a moron? Watch yourself. We...   Mar 19 2008, 02:46 PM
Feral Phoenix   Welcome to the moron parade, then. You'll sure...   Mar 19 2008, 05:34 PM
Yuka   items, So every Final Fantasy is connected to ea...   Mar 19 2008, 06:19 PM
Irysa   Hey guys, Dead Rising and Resident Evil are soooo ...   Mar 19 2008, 06:12 PM
Skie   Wow...I have nothing to say Feral, you've fail...   Mar 19 2008, 08:56 PM
Raijinili   You're all embarrassments to the human race. S...   Mar 20 2008, 02:39 AM
Raijinili   This thread needs less flaming and more Osakabell....   Mar 20 2008, 06:32 AM
sandpenguin   Cool down, Feral, cool down.....stop classing othe...   Mar 20 2008, 08:20 AM
Suzu Fujibayashi   Eh I still say they are connected myself. Because....   Mar 20 2008, 09:03 PM
Sepharan   The games would appear to be related. Sting group...   Mar 20 2008, 11:55 PM
Yuka   When is it explicitly stated that Riviera is the i...   Mar 21 2008, 12:36 AM
Sepharan   It isn't. Just a guess. Anyway, so Yuka, bas...   Mar 21 2008, 01:06 AM
Archeia   So...all FF is related because they have bahamut, ...   Mar 21 2008, 01:11 AM
Sepharan   Yuka already clarified that. Besides, just becaus...   Mar 21 2008, 01:17 AM
Chaos   Yuka already clarified that. Besides, just becau...   Mar 21 2008, 01:28 AM
Sepharan   Well, at this point there's four episodes, so ...   Mar 21 2008, 01:34 AM
Chaos   Well, Sting is notorious for doing completely rand...   Mar 21 2008, 01:46 AM
Skie   My take on this whole Dept of Heaven thing is that...   Mar 21 2008, 11:44 PM
Sepharan   Pardon? YU and Riviera DO take place on different...   Mar 22 2008, 02:04 AM
Archeia   Skie didn't say Rivie and YU are in the same c...   Mar 22 2008, 03:26 AM
Rhiannon   Remember: Same universe, different/multiple worlds...   Mar 22 2008, 03:26 AM
Yuka   Remember: Same universe, different/multiple world...   Mar 22 2008, 03:46 AM
Irysa   You mean you guys didn't get that already? ...   Mar 22 2008, 04:49 AM
Yuka   You mean you guys didn't get that already? ...   Mar 22 2008, 04:59 AM
Sepharan   Sarcasm overload. By the way, your claims, Irysa...   Mar 22 2008, 05:52 PM
Irysa   No you idiot. Batman appears in a Scooby Doo cart...   Mar 22 2008, 09:42 PM
Raijinili   Cameos aren't NECESSARILY relations. Most of t...   Mar 22 2008, 10:43 PM
Archeia   Cameos aren't NECESSARILY relations. Most of ...   Mar 25 2008, 08:18 AM
Irysa   Tell that to Feral.   Mar 24 2008, 11:24 AM
Sepharan   Ouch, Irysa, I'm an idiot, hm? I'm hurt ...   Mar 25 2008, 12:26 AM
Enzd   Ouch, Irysa, I'm an idiot, hm? I'm hurt...   Mar 25 2008, 12:51 AM
Sepharan   Don't get involved, radiant imbecile.   Mar 25 2008, 01:10 AM
Enzd   You're too kind, but I'm always involved, ...   Mar 25 2008, 02:42 AM
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Archeia   Wha! That looks interesting *_* I Wonder what ...   Apr 11 2008, 11:11 PM
aerozero   The art is lovely as always.   Apr 12 2008, 12:36 AM
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