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Aug 3 2008, 09:20 AM
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After some time of reading, pics, brawls, and such on this thread, I find an urge to write my opinion in this *conflict* which in a never-ending loop. I will make this as simple as I can, so let's start it.....
There are many opinion regarding this game and it's correlation to the Riviera, Yggdra and the *fillintheblanks* game, such as....:
a)All of the story in all of the saga happens in a same universe, in a same timeline, in DIFFERENT points in the land, which in our language means, HISTORY. In this theory, each of the story in the 4 games make a significance move in the saga itself.....
Riviera: A perv GrimAngel falls, stirring up the place, become hero with his 'Fallen Soldier' sword (Ein-Herjar), living with the sprites, DEAD.
Yggdra: Thousand of years after the story in Riviera happened.....a cute princess escaped from being tormented by her cohorts, finding a lot of allies, taking back capital, becomes queen, launch a counter-offensive charge, sacked the enemy capital, return, met with 'The False Messenger', kill him with Ein's sword and.....
From this the saga actually divides, depending on which option you choose in the game, "Becoming Arthuria" or "Rebelion Against The Gods"
And that's all the conclusion that I can make about the series...for this theory to work, we need to know what the storyline of game No. 3 is. This theory solves the baffling question about 'Marietta' 'Heaven's Gate' and the fate of the Einherjar.
BUT, why is Marietta EVIIIIL in Riviera (Assume 2000 years ago) while she is the typical Archangel in Yggdra, 2000 years AFTER? Question, eh?
b)All of the story happens inside a parallel universe, same playground, different characters with NO connections met between the four.....many people in this site adopts this, as I can see....
This theory meanwhile, solves the question about Bronchitis? No, Brongaa, Mulminams, Paltina, location of the World Tree and other factors that you might think appropriate. But, it also creates the above, questions about Marietta and Co, which Suzu and Feral fight dearly for.
c)The story happens in a DESCENDING ORDER....it means Game No. 4-3-2-1 in a manner. In the same universe and timeline. (NEW THEORY FOUND WHILE THINKING BLANKLY)
Okay, Knights In The Nightmare starts first.....something happen in No. 3 *and* the story of Yggdra starts. Gran Centurio is NOT Einherjar, it's another different *uber* sword. As usual, beat the crap out AND fight with the gods......and ultimately fail....which the gods will call as 'Ragnarok' with the Gods fighting with the forces of 'Eviiiill' namely 'Paltina's Army' yep, no kidding, no demons or goblins in it.
So, the gods angry with the Paltinans and killed them all... (Nuclear Winter maybe?) To make the land fertile again, they put the sprites into the deserted land.....and promise to return to them again....and that is Ein.
This theory meanwhile solves the question of Marietta, (Lose to Yggdra, gods angry, make her fall, sad, becomes evil, corrupting the people....yaddayaddayadda Tethyh) and also the 'missing civilization' mystery.
d)HUMAN BRAIN. Yep, we all are fighting for a moot point. Each one have their own thoughts and perspective on this game. The developers and we, the fans have their own ways and ideas to fill in the hole in the theory they adopt.....and we just can't fight our own CREATIVITY and EGO about this.
Well, long post eh? I try to make my conclusion about this *conflict* in an all encompassing view about the game. For me personally, I choose the option 'A' but will not raise a middle finger if someone choose B, C or D. For me, it's not important to fight for this......@#@%%@!! It's better to live with it rather than resisting it whole.
But one thing for sure.....I love my theory about 'C' option....somewhat fit.....as it solves down a lot of questions about the saga, but who knows, it depends on the person.....
P/S: Discuss about this.....I'll accept anything but be fair, don't mock me for my statement....I just writing what I think about this....... YOU TWO, STOP FIGHTING LIKE A NO-BRAINER. Phew, it's been long to not writing a post at this length!
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Yuka Knights in the Nightmare Feb 17 2008, 12:08 AM Ebe WOW she has fancy armor, it looks almost organic.
... Feb 17 2008, 12:21 AM Rhiannon Maria looks awesome.
AND OH STING THIS LOOKS EVEN... Feb 17 2008, 12:27 AM Yuka <Rhiannon> Riviera is episode 1
<Rhiannon... Feb 17 2008, 12:31 AM Irysa Lol, turn based real time strategy.
Silly sting. Feb 17 2008, 02:18 PM sandpenguin 3'rd episode of the 'Midgard Crysis'. ... Feb 17 2008, 02:23 PM Irysa IV is Episode 4. Feb 17 2008, 02:30 PM Ebe Well, so the speculation begins again, that didn... Feb 17 2008, 03:39 PM jcdietz03 There are some weird connections-
Like the Archang... Feb 17 2008, 03:44 PM Yuka 10PM Eastern is about 8 AM Japan time.
And appare... Feb 17 2008, 07:06 PM Wally
Mind is blown.
It would be awesome if this mean... Feb 17 2008, 07:43 PM Rhiannon The battle system is probably able to do turn-base... Feb 17 2008, 07:54 PM P.P.A. :o
I STILL NEED TO FINISH YU Feb 17 2008, 09:17 PM Rhiannon It's mesmerizing to watch the countdown.
1000... Feb 17 2008, 10:13 PM Raijinili So much for my "Riviera remake heralds the ad... Feb 18 2008, 12:33 AM Irysa IT'S DONE
IT'S HERE Feb 18 2008, 01:02 AM Ebe Well that was interesting
First, the countdown fi... Feb 18 2008, 01:03 AM Rhiannon DOWNLOAD PRETTY MUSIC AT WILL: http://www.sting.co... Feb 18 2008, 01:42 AM Megaolix I liek the music. I can't wait to see news thi... Feb 18 2008, 02:08 AM Rhiannon You want more music? Well, JAJA's blog has mus... Feb 18 2008, 02:49 AM Wally Sounds sexy. I'm totally buying the soundtrac... Feb 18 2008, 03:01 AM Irysa You guys buy into hype too much.
You only buy sou... Feb 18 2008, 03:05 AM Rhiannon You don't buy into hype enough. :( That countd... Feb 18 2008, 03:18 AM Wally
Although I wouldn't buy it if the rest of the... Feb 18 2008, 03:41 AM Irysa
Hype tends to disappoint. Feb 18 2008, 06:12 AM Rhiannon Not when it's Sting! Feb 18 2008, 06:16 AM Irysa Yggdra Union disappointed me greatly. Feb 18 2008, 06:22 AM Rhiannon It exceeded my expectations. :( Feb 18 2008, 08:55 AM sandpenguin ARGH! IT'S N-DS!!!!
HOW IN... Feb 18 2008, 10:37 AM Yuka
ARGH! IT'S N-DS!!!!
HOW I... Feb 19 2008, 09:18 AM  Archeia
I have access to a DS, a PSP, and a GBA, so why s... Feb 19 2008, 09:53 AM jcdietz03
ARGH! IT'S N-DS!!!!
HOW I... Feb 20 2008, 01:44 AM sandpenguin Fuck you back Yuka. You just said according to wha... Feb 19 2008, 02:11 PM Yuka
Fuck you back Yuka. You just said according to wh... Feb 20 2008, 07:22 AM Irysa
Because we're not all rich buyfags or people... Feb 19 2008, 03:50 PM Rhiannon Actually, what happened is I enjoyed it more than ... Feb 20 2008, 01:03 AM Irysa I'm just giving feasible explanations why. Feb 20 2008, 01:06 AM Greifer Lol inherited jerkiness.
Interestingly enough, I... Feb 21 2008, 01:22 AM Feral Phoenix QUESTION.
Where does it say which Dept. Heaven ep... Feb 22 2008, 06:14 PM Rhiannon It says in the pictures of the Famitsu article on ... Feb 22 2008, 07:34 PM Feral Phoenix alkdgh;oaiejflaksdhg;oiweahrf
WAIT WAIT HOLY SHIT... Mar 9 2008, 08:25 PM Rhiannon Actually, it's Mazenda in Kitten. Sting is try... Mar 9 2008, 08:30 PM Feral Phoenix Hildegarde's name is spelled the same way, and... Mar 10 2008, 12:21 PM Rhiannon My point is, it's not written that way in YU, ... Mar 10 2008, 02:36 PM Yuka
My point is, it's not written that way in YU,... Mar 10 2008, 08:44 PM Suzu Fujibayashi Or is it? Dun dun dun.
Eh. I'll wait and see w... Mar 10 2008, 04:54 PM Suzu Fujibayashi Reason is overrated. Mar 10 2008, 11:01 PM Yuka I hate you now. Mar 10 2008, 11:05 PM Raijinili Hate is overrated. Mar 11 2008, 04:00 AM Skie Heh, another STING game for a handheld that I actu... Mar 15 2008, 06:33 PM Yuka I do believe you have me mistaken for someone else... Mar 16 2008, 07:37 AM Skie Hah, I figured as much, you're sarcastic enoug... Mar 16 2008, 08:15 AM Feral Phoenix Y'know, Yuka, your words just don't hold t... Mar 17 2008, 02:21 PM Yuka
Y'know, Yuka, your words just don't hold ... Mar 18 2008, 01:20 AM P.P.A. WHERE ARE THE MUSIC SAMPLES Mar 17 2008, 10:04 PM DustyHaru *wish for wallpapers*
-Dusty Mar 17 2008, 10:40 PM Rhiannon MAYBE IF YOU READ THE WHOLE TOPIC YOU WOULD KNOW ... Mar 17 2008, 10:15 PM Skie It is possible for games to take place in the same... Mar 18 2008, 03:24 AM Archeia
It is possible for games to take place in the sam... Mar 20 2008, 05:36 AM Irysa Idiot Feral, they're not related at all.
Whe... Mar 18 2008, 09:53 AM jcdietz03 World TreeThere is a world tree leaf you can find ... Mar 19 2008, 01:52 AM P.P.A. I AM SORRY BUT THANK YOU RHIA Mar 18 2008, 10:36 AM Feral Phoenix Now who's the idiot?
They both wind up in Hea... Mar 19 2008, 12:23 PM Skie Who are you calling a moron? Watch yourself. We... Mar 19 2008, 02:46 PM Feral Phoenix Welcome to the moron parade, then. You'll sure... Mar 19 2008, 05:34 PM Yuka
items,
So every Final Fantasy is connected to ea... Mar 19 2008, 06:19 PM Irysa Hey guys, Dead Rising and Resident Evil are soooo ... Mar 19 2008, 06:12 PM Skie Wow...I have nothing to say Feral, you've fail... Mar 19 2008, 08:56 PM Raijinili You're all embarrassments to the human race. S... Mar 20 2008, 02:39 AM Raijinili This thread needs less flaming and more Osakabell.... Mar 20 2008, 06:32 AM sandpenguin Cool down, Feral, cool down.....stop classing othe... Mar 20 2008, 08:20 AM Suzu Fujibayashi Eh I still say they are connected myself. Because.... Mar 20 2008, 09:03 PM Sepharan The games would appear to be related. Sting group... Mar 20 2008, 11:55 PM Yuka When is it explicitly stated that Riviera is the i... Mar 21 2008, 12:36 AM Sepharan It isn't. Just a guess. Anyway, so Yuka, bas... Mar 21 2008, 01:06 AM Archeia So...all FF is related because they have bahamut, ... Mar 21 2008, 01:11 AM Sepharan Yuka already clarified that. Besides, just becaus... Mar 21 2008, 01:17 AM Chaos
Yuka already clarified that. Besides, just becau... Mar 21 2008, 01:28 AM Sepharan Well, at this point there's four episodes, so ... Mar 21 2008, 01:34 AM Chaos Well, Sting is notorious for doing completely rand... Mar 21 2008, 01:46 AM Skie My take on this whole Dept of Heaven thing is that... Mar 21 2008, 11:44 PM Sepharan Pardon? YU and Riviera DO take place on different... Mar 22 2008, 02:04 AM Archeia Skie didn't say Rivie and YU are in the same c... Mar 22 2008, 03:26 AM Rhiannon Remember: Same universe, different/multiple worlds... Mar 22 2008, 03:26 AM Yuka
Remember: Same universe, different/multiple world... Mar 22 2008, 03:46 AM Irysa You mean you guys didn't get that already?
... Mar 22 2008, 04:49 AM Yuka
You mean you guys didn't get that already?
... Mar 22 2008, 04:59 AM Sepharan Sarcasm overload.
By the way, your claims, Irysa... Mar 22 2008, 05:52 PM Irysa No you idiot.
Batman appears in a Scooby Doo cart... Mar 22 2008, 09:42 PM Raijinili Cameos aren't NECESSARILY relations. Most of t... Mar 22 2008, 10:43 PM Archeia
Cameos aren't NECESSARILY relations. Most of ... Mar 25 2008, 08:18 AM Irysa Tell that to Feral. Mar 24 2008, 11:24 AM Sepharan Ouch, Irysa, I'm an idiot, hm? I'm hurt ... Mar 25 2008, 12:26 AM Enzd Ouch, Irysa, I'm an idiot, hm? I'm hurt... Mar 25 2008, 12:51 AM Sepharan Don't get involved, radiant imbecile. Mar 25 2008, 01:10 AM Enzd You're too kind, but I'm always involved, ... Mar 25 2008, 02:42 AM Sepharan Wow, this is the first time I've been warned :... Mar 25 2008, 10:16 PM Rhiannon HEY GUYS
http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image... Apr 11 2008, 08:58 PM Archeia Wha! That looks interesting *_*
I Wonder what ... Apr 11 2008, 11:11 PM aerozero The art is lovely as always. Apr 12 2008, 12:36 AM
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