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Yggdra Union versus Riviera.
Which game is your favourite?
Yggdra Union [ 35 ] ** [58.33%]
Riviera [ 15 ] ** [25.00%]
I came for the bath scenes [ 10 ] ** [16.67%]
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Dr Strum
post Dec 4 2006, 02:55 AM
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While it may be a bit early for some of you to judge, and I put it in the YU forum since most people who haven't played YU wouldn't come in here, which of these two games is your favourite?
Yggdra Union with it's beautiful sprites and complex gameplay, and questionably large eyes.
Riviera, with it's version-for-everyone, CGs, voice acting and hook ups.
Or do you not care since they both have bath scenes?


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post Apr 28 2008, 10:32 PM
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Yggdra Union has some of the worst introductory levels ever, and has a lot of what I hate most in any game - obsolete abilities.

Seriously, if you're going to throw in a skill, STOP. Is something else better than it? Then don't put the damn thing in, or else remake it. Or allow the skill to be upgraded.

Not doing this results in too much useless shit being thrown in, which is my second qualm.

Another thing I can't stand about it is the apparent requirement to stop on every bloody tile to find out where things are. This isn't just a few times, like a Fire Emblem game, it's all over every map, and it practically encourages using a guide at the same time so you don't waste your time standing still on every other tile.

It doesn't nearly go as far as Riviera in terms of character development (durr, srpgs have too many characters for this 99% of the time), but the story is roughly equal (note, neither games have particulary good story), or better in some parts.

Music wise? YU's pac is terrible. There are probably parts of 3 songs the image disc I actually like off it, whilst the GBA does have the appeal of being chip music, it's generally overall extremely samey all the way through. This is probably why people seem to favor either Riviera or YU so greatly, as YU recycles a lot of the same material (thus appealing to the folk who LIKE that small amount), whilst Riviera has very distinctive themes for everything, which I like (although it's arranged soundtrack totally butchers a lot of the songs)


Gameplay? There isn't enough proper strategy (hurr, my card's better than yours), and some cards are blatantly broken. However, the actual clashes themselves were unique, and I found myself wishing them to be something that could be implemented in other SRPGs (albiet in a different manner). Overall, I enjoyed it, but, (inb4 massive rage) I had more fun with the Fire Emblem GBA titles than it.



Riviera, on the other hand, I found a lot more "addicting". The entire thing was, so to speak, extremely streamlined. It cut out unnecessary segments from an all too familar RPG formula, gave a lot of time to it's characters, just to be themselves (resulting in far far greater character development), and promoted frequent experimentation with the battle system. I also prefer it's art style, Overdrives (in comparison to Card Skills), and general overall "feel" so to speak. YU I find tries to take itself a bit too seriously in comparison to it's presentation and art direction, whilst Riviera sustains a comical and playful feel, even in more darkly themed segments.

It's music I much preferred (see detailed above), and the additional voice acting is a nice touch (haven't played the PSP versions of either games to judge them both on it fully done), and it's overall presentation and pacing were of higher quality than YU (which throws you in the deep end with your trunks over your head, and expects you to put up with everyone laughing at you till you get them on to start swimming)

Gameplay, whilst nothing revolutionary, was entertaining and combined with the other factors, fuses up a game that leaves a lasting impression, along with a lot of replay value.



tl;dr Riviera is better than Yggdra Union.


QUOTE(Dr Sturm @ May 12 2007, 09:41 PM) *

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that Yggdra Union has a much deeper and better-explored plotline,
Hardly. And both are deep, but they're also both extremely fractured.


Neither games have deep plotlines. Both are fairly generic.















Oh and, just because it fits, Baroque is by a very very very long shot Sting's best game.

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Dr Sturm   Yggdra Union versus Riviera   Dec 4 2006, 02:55 AM
Crest   Umm...kind of like both I guess. Riviera seemed to...   Dec 4 2006, 03:07 AM
Dr Sturm   Stop playing the Japanese version.   Dec 4 2006, 03:09 AM
Sauce XIV   I say Yggdra Union, and chances are I don't ha...   Dec 4 2006, 03:11 AM
Raijinili   This is NOT strategy. It simply prevents you from ...   Dec 4 2006, 03:36 AM
Sauce XIV   This is NOT strategy. It simply prevents you from...   Dec 4 2006, 03:38 AM
Raijinili   It means you have to make sure you don't press...   Dec 4 2006, 03:43 AM
Aekari   Questionably large eyes...yes yes, that's a go...   Dec 4 2006, 04:24 AM
Dr Sturm   ... Usually when you decide which one you like mor...   Dec 4 2006, 04:29 AM
level   well riviera had alot of funny moment in the game ...   Dec 4 2006, 12:57 PM
Raijinili   Response to Aekari's spoiler: Two Aeginas   Dec 4 2006, 02:34 PM
Malice   YU was too complicated for me. Riviera was a lot b...   Dec 4 2006, 09:20 PM
Aekari   Response to Aekari's spoiler: [spoiler]Two Ae...   Dec 4 2006, 11:30 PM
Dr Sturm   BF42 spoilers. Yggdra says something along the lin...   Dec 5 2006, 02:00 AM
Rhiannon   Yggdra Union, because of the music, characters, gr...   Dec 5 2006, 10:28 PM
Knightman   Yggdra Union, because of the music, characters, g...   Apr 22 2008, 03:03 AM
Malice   Uh, Yggdra Union was hard to understand.   Dec 6 2006, 01:15 AM
Dr Sturm   Riviera was harder.   Dec 6 2006, 01:20 AM
Captain Ahoge   I won't mince words, I came for the bath scene...   Dec 6 2006, 09:49 AM
Shadow   I like YU's gameplay better. So my vote goes t...   Dec 6 2006, 09:03 PM
Seve   Both games have very different, and great in their...   Dec 7 2006, 04:16 AM
Someone   I like Yggdra Union better because I don't lik...   Dec 7 2006, 06:17 AM
Malice   I'm not sure if I feel the same way about Rivi...   Dec 7 2006, 01:08 PM
Dr Sturm   I never said Riviera was hard.   Dec 7 2006, 03:14 PM
Malice   You did say it was harder -____-   Dec 7 2006, 09:01 PM
Dr Sturm   Harder doesn't mean hard, except comparatively...   Dec 7 2006, 09:08 PM
Megafreak   I say Yggdra Union, for its gameplay.   Dec 9 2006, 06:12 PM
Desu   I prefer Yggdra Union.   Dec 10 2006, 10:42 AM
Seans   I personally enjoyed Riviera better. From the mome...   Dec 20 2006, 12:44 AM
Desu   Well...YU has a interesting story too... especiall...   Dec 20 2006, 12:53 AM
Dr Sturm   YU doesn't have CGs because it doesn't nee...   Dec 20 2006, 12:58 AM
Seans   Granted, YU's sprites were superior to Riviera...   Dec 20 2006, 07:58 PM
DragonKnight Jason   I think if you posted this in a Riviera section th...   Dec 20 2006, 11:39 PM
Dr Sturm   I explained my reasoning for putting it in the YU ...   Dec 21 2006, 12:07 AM
Seve   Now that my post-beating Yggdra Union aura or what...   Dec 21 2006, 07:37 AM
Dr Sturm   No, you cannot, which is why I said people shouldn...   Dec 21 2006, 07:39 AM
Seve   Haha I know, I know. I had beaten it when I actual...   Dec 21 2006, 07:44 AM
Dr Sturm   But, regardless of that, you can't claim the c...   Dec 21 2006, 07:48 AM
Seve   Oh no, I didn't mean that they had NO characte...   Dec 21 2006, 07:51 AM
Enzd   YU DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH FUNNY DIALOGUE D: Howe...   Dec 21 2006, 03:47 PM
TaylorGS   I'm not voting until I beat YU, but thus far, ...   Dec 21 2006, 08:30 PM
Sauce XIV   We weren't supposed to vote UNTIL we beat YU? ...   Dec 21 2006, 10:20 PM
Desu   Nessiah! <3 I liked YU's story too... ...   Dec 21 2006, 10:23 PM
Lord Rasler   HI! i'm new......now that thats out of the...   Dec 22 2006, 12:21 AM
Dr Sturm   Ten-to-six.   Dec 22 2006, 02:03 AM
Lord Rasler   Ten-to-six. Thanx for clearing that up^-^   Dec 22 2006, 02:34 PM
Sotel Kiseki   I hated the dubbed vocies for Riveria. IT WAS HORR...   Jan 20 2007, 05:41 PM
Dr Sturm   The Japanese voices for Riviera are awful. I thin...   Jan 20 2007, 06:53 PM
Sotel Kiseki   oh no. I know that for sure. the dubbed version ma...   Jan 20 2007, 07:27 PM
Dr Sturm   Well, in the Japanese version, Ein is very clearly...   Jan 20 2007, 07:59 PM
Lord Ryo   Well, this ones obvious. Riviera is a great game n...   Jan 22 2007, 08:35 AM
Dr Sturm   Maybe if you abuse Practice Mode.   Jan 22 2007, 01:16 PM
Sotel Kiseki   Maybe if you abuse Practice Mode. That's v...   Jan 22 2007, 08:19 PM
Dr Sturm   Not getting owned is part of the strategy.   Jan 22 2007, 09:30 PM
Lord Ryo   I don't remember me mentioning anything about ...   Jan 25 2007, 03:51 AM
Dr Sturm   Just because you didn't say it doesn't mea...   Jan 25 2007, 04:02 AM
Lord Ryo   What's there to figure out, you're just ma...   Jan 25 2007, 04:32 AM
Dr Sturm   Considering you say YU is difficult, yes, it is im...   Jan 25 2007, 04:34 AM
Lord Ryo   Why, do you find Riviera to be harder? I flew thro...   Jan 25 2007, 04:45 AM
Dr Sturm   I find it hard to believe you never used Practice ...   Jan 25 2007, 04:53 AM
Lord Ryo   Oh, so you watched me play my first game then Stur...   Jan 25 2007, 05:08 AM
Dr Sturm   In Riviera, using practice mode IS abusing practic...   Jan 25 2007, 01:16 PM
Lord Ryo   In all due honesty, what the hell are you talking ...   Jan 26 2007, 05:41 AM
Dr Sturm   There is no item obtained that cannot have a durab...   Jan 26 2007, 01:30 PM
Lord Ryo   Of course there is, not too many thou. You'll ...   Jan 29 2007, 02:37 AM
Dr Sturm   What particular case is the x1 with a main weapon?...   Jan 29 2007, 02:43 AM
Lord Ryo   Some enemies drops weapons you can level up with, ...   Jan 29 2007, 03:03 AM
Dr Sturm   Your point?   Jan 29 2007, 03:08 AM
Lord Ryo   Being that it may take more then 5 usages to level...   Jan 29 2007, 03:11 AM
Dr Sturm   Not with everyone. But your point beyond that is.....   Jan 29 2007, 03:12 AM
Lord Ryo   Once is enough to prove me point yet again, leavin...   Jan 29 2007, 03:25 AM
Dr Sturm   Except it's not. Enemy drops are only one way ...   Jan 29 2007, 03:29 AM
Lord Ryo   Does it have to be the only way? Just the fact *th...   Jan 29 2007, 03:53 AM
Rhiannon   The point is that there's no item that will ne...   Jan 29 2007, 04:05 AM
Lord Ryo   This place is like Resident Evil evil or something...   Jan 29 2007, 04:12 AM
Rhiannon   Yeah, I must think the EXACT same thing as Sturm a...   Jan 29 2007, 04:20 AM
Lord Ryo   How long ago was your argument with Sturm? Perhaps...   Jan 29 2007, 04:39 AM
Dr Sturm   Two days ago. I've done nothing of the sort. Y...   Jan 29 2007, 04:42 AM
Lord Ryo   That's all you've done here, this thread i...   Jan 29 2007, 04:49 AM
Rhiannon   Must everyone have distinctly different opinions o...   Jan 29 2007, 04:52 AM
Dr Sturm   *bans Rhea for her attempted undermining of my aut...   Jan 29 2007, 04:55 AM
Marionette   The fact you two have matching icons seems so appr...   Jan 29 2007, 05:00 AM
Lord Ryo   I only posted my opinion, isn't that what this...   Jan 29 2007, 05:06 AM
Raijinili   He's an admin. That's... pretty difficult ...   Jan 29 2007, 01:59 PM
chrishawke   I enjoy tactics, so Yggdra Union gets my vote.   Jan 29 2007, 05:54 PM
Dr Sturm   I have finally voted; Yggdra Union.   May 10 2007, 02:47 PM
SyphonVectorman   Yeah, I'd have to go with Yggdra Union as well...   May 12 2007, 05:35 PM
WhiteKnight   I prefer Yggdra Union because it feels more unique...   May 12 2007, 05:38 PM
FlameSpark   Why was this thread created in the first place? B...   May 12 2007, 07:42 PM
Dr Sturm   And which is your favourite? That is the question...   May 12 2007, 07:47 PM
FlameSpark   I like them both, each for different reasons. But...   May 12 2007, 07:51 PM
Feral Phoenix   That's hard to decide. Both games have lovable...   May 12 2007, 08:39 PM
Dr Sturm   Hardly. And both are deep, but they're also b...   May 12 2007, 08:41 PM
Archeia   Yggdra Union, I just love it.   Apr 22 2008, 04:56 AM
Chaos   Let's make a dual review! NOTE 1: COMPLET...   Apr 22 2008, 06:25 AM
jcdietz03   Looks like YU is the winner. I like YU too... The...   Apr 28 2008, 01:40 PM
Feral Phoenix   How does Riviera's story beat Yggdra Union...   Apr 28 2008, 05:19 PM
Suzu Fujibayashi   And how does YU have better characters? Unless the...   Apr 28 2008, 07:56 PM
Rhiannon   I thought the enemies talked quite a bit.   Apr 28 2008, 08:13 PM
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