All-Black School -[Toronto, Canada]- Options

[Irysa]

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/299106

To summarize in brief, the Toronto District School Board (Canada) has just approved a motion to open an all black school somewhere in downtown Toronto. The school will have only black management, teachers and only accept black students. The thrust of the project is twofold; increase attendance rates and a general interest for staying in school, and provide a more afro-centric curriculum.

This is racist. Why, after so many years of fighting against segregation and racism is something like this allowed to happen? Where are the benefits? I honestly can't think of any. But there are enough downsides to this. Aside from the general massive racism intoned in the project, there are also a number of other problems. For example, what happens when these students graduate and enter the workforce or higher education? If they're only socialized with other people of the same race, how will they react to fellow students or authority figures of different races? There is also debate as to whether or not any students actually asked for such a school to be created, as well as the question of public funding.

I have nothing against the offering of an afro-centric course as part of the curriculum... but why like this? Many people send their children to Jewish/Greek/Chinese/you-name-it (private) schools on Saturdays or Sundays, so that their kids can learn about their own culture and have an appreciation for it. That's wonderful. But why does an all black school receive public approval and funding?

Consider this. If someone now petitions for an all white school (which someone will undoubtedly do) they'll instantly be labelled as a racist. But what's the difference? Why is an all black school tolerable, but an all white school abhorred? Is it some pathetic 200 year old slavery justification that has no bearing on the real world anymore?

I'm interested in getting other viewpoints on this because quite frankly I cannot reconcile myself to the alternative viewpoint. I cannot see this school as being anything but a bad idea. I don't see how it can be anything but racist (at least on some level) and, most of all, I can't fathom how it ever received approval.

[Raijinili]

In the real world, if I take one car, and then compare it to another car, even of the same model, they will be different.

But 1 isn't a car, is it? Two cars can't be equal to each other unless they are in all ways equal, and in fact the same car occupying the same space.

There's a difference between "equal" and "equivalent". A car is equivalent to a different car in some sense, but it's not equal to it.

Assuming I am correct in this lack of evidence, there is NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS for the existence of the mathematical principle 1 = 1, because no thing is equal to another thing.

Science is less rigorous than mathematics. You can't prove something in math with science at all.

If you had a scientific proof that something in math was true, then they would laugh in your face because you don't even understand math. Math is rational. Science is empirical. Two completely different ways to gain knowledge.

For all your philosophy talk, you don't even understand basic epistemology.

Of course we can say two onions are the same as eachother

Being "the same" in colloquial speech is not being "equal" in a mathematical sense.

giving the matter thought would readily raise obvious alternatives.

So what's the alternative to 1=1? So far all I've seen from you are basic misunderstandings of logic.

The math book does not explain WHY 1 = 1. It simply tells you that this is in fact, the case.

I don't read your baby math books (and in fact didn't even read them as a kid). I read the books that tells me that the only thing that is equal to something is itself.

EDIT: Oh, and as for mistakes with basic math, basic math tells us that .99999999-repeating 9 is = 1. So now an infinite .9 is = 1. Despite the fact that they're not the same? UH OH.

Good job. You've just proven to me that you have no idea what you're talking about.

If .999... is not equal to 1, then tell me, what is their difference? And if you say an infinite number of zeros with a 1 at the end, then you're an idiot. Try Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.999.... Or try long division of 1/1, except instead of putting a 1 in the first slot, put a zero. You'll easily see that .999...=1 makes sense..

This isn't a paradox, this is just counterintuitive.

Using only multiplication, division subtraction and addition, I have made a mathematical proof that 1 = 2. DO YOU BELIEVE 1 = 2?

Nope, because that proof was a joke passed around by math people.

Here's a fun game: try to find the error. Hint: it's in this false conclusion: "(a - b) (a + b) = b (a - b) --> (a + b) = b"