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Irysa
post Feb 4 2008, 03:59 AM
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http://www.thestar.com/News/article/299106

To summarize in brief, the Toronto District School Board (Canada) has just approved a motion to open an all black school somewhere in downtown Toronto. The school will have only black management, teachers and only accept black students. The thrust of the project is twofold; increase attendance rates and a general interest for staying in school, and provide a more afro-centric curriculum.

This is racist. Why, after so many years of fighting against segregation and racism is something like this allowed to happen? Where are the benefits? I honestly can't think of any. But there are enough downsides to this. Aside from the general massive racism intoned in the project, there are also a number of other problems. For example, what happens when these students graduate and enter the workforce or higher education? If they're only socialized with other people of the same race, how will they react to fellow students or authority figures of different races? There is also debate as to whether or not any students actually asked for such a school to be created, as well as the question of public funding.

I have nothing against the offering of an afro-centric course as part of the curriculum... but why like this? Many people send their children to Jewish/Greek/Chinese/you-name-it (private) schools on Saturdays or Sundays, so that their kids can learn about their own culture and have an appreciation for it. That's wonderful. But why does an all black school receive public approval and funding?

Consider this. If someone now petitions for an all white school (which someone will undoubtedly do) they'll instantly be labelled as a racist. But what's the difference? Why is an all black school tolerable, but an all white school abhorred? Is it some pathetic 200 year old slavery justification that has no bearing on the real world anymore?

I'm interested in getting other viewpoints on this because quite frankly I cannot reconcile myself to the alternative viewpoint. I cannot see this school as being anything but a bad idea. I don't see how it can be anything but racist (at least on some level) and, most of all, I can't fathom how it ever received approval.


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post Feb 9 2008, 01:31 AM
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Irysa   All-Black School -[Toronto, Canada]-   Feb 4 2008, 03:59 AM
P.P.A.   I don't see the point of that. Black people ar...   Feb 4 2008, 10:04 AM
Lord Rasler   If this isn't a step back in sociaty, I don...   Feb 4 2008, 02:13 PM
jcdietz03   What is wrong with black people? On average, they ...   Feb 4 2008, 03:55 PM
Lord Rasler   Furthermore, I think black people who are around ...   Feb 4 2008, 04:57 PM
Yuka   What proof can you bring to counter his claim?   Feb 5 2008, 12:01 AM
jcdietz03   Ah well it's up to the person making the claim...   Feb 5 2008, 02:58 AM
Wally   The dropouts at my high school generally had much ...   Feb 6 2008, 03:37 AM
Raij|Away   Where does that say that the school is "all b...   Feb 6 2008, 08:22 PM
jcdietz03   Women seem about as smart as men (for primary sch...   Feb 6 2008, 09:44 PM
Wally   Where does that say that the school is "all ...   Feb 7 2008, 02:19 AM
Yuka   I have met a lot more stupid girls than smart girl...   Feb 7 2008, 12:41 AM
jcdietz03   I have met a lot more stupid girls than smart gir...   Feb 7 2008, 01:36 AM
Irysa   I have met a lot more stupid girls than smart gir...   Feb 7 2008, 12:36 PM
Yuka   I have met a lot more stupid girls than smart gi...   Feb 9 2008, 12:38 AM
Raijinili   Bias against blacks is more significant than bias ...   Feb 9 2008, 12:36 AM
jcdietz03   Just like how black people doing poorly in school ...   Feb 17 2008, 03:30 PM
Rhiannon   You're confusing Asaph with me. Being homescho...   Feb 9 2008, 01:26 AM
Rhiannon   Yes, and I've come to the conclusion from your...   Feb 9 2008, 01:39 AM
Yuka   You've already proven your point that normal h...   Feb 9 2008, 01:41 AM
Rhiannon   Apparently you don't know much about teenagers...   Feb 9 2008, 01:42 AM
Yuka   I know enough about teenagers, and I've been t...   Feb 9 2008, 01:44 AM
Rhiannon   Sure it wasn't a little strip mall? I'm ta...   Feb 9 2008, 01:46 AM
Yuka   Yes, those big malls. And you'd be surprised.   Feb 9 2008, 02:02 AM
Rhiannon   Unless you're talking about colleges/universit...   Feb 9 2008, 02:12 AM
Irysa   I'm seriously thinking you're right Rhia. ...   Feb 9 2008, 03:09 AM
jcdietz03   I hardly ever go to the mall anymore. I go to rea...   Feb 9 2008, 01:51 PM
Raijinili   Do I have to hound you again to get an answer out ...   Feb 15 2008, 02:33 AM
Ebe   All black schools are actually largely beneficial ...   Feb 17 2008, 01:35 AM
Raijinili   You're an idiot. Topic over.   Feb 17 2008, 11:53 PM
Irysa   Most adopted twins aren't adopted by poor peo...   Feb 18 2008, 12:21 AM
Ebe   Atheism has to be a belief because it states a spe...   Feb 18 2008, 12:27 AM
Raijinili   Atheism isn't a religion. It's still a bel...   Feb 18 2008, 12:47 AM
Ebe   While his views were a little screwy IMHO, Balzac ...   Feb 18 2008, 12:55 AM
Raijinili   Empirical evidence requires more faith than theore...   Feb 18 2008, 01:26 AM
Ebe   But even that assumes color would be inherent to y...   Feb 18 2008, 04:16 AM
Raijinili   The existence of the equal sign is of no matter. T...   Feb 18 2008, 06:06 AM
Ebe   All I'm saying is that these only work if we a...   Feb 18 2008, 06:12 AM
jcdietz03   I didn't realize that, but it doesn't matt...   Feb 18 2008, 11:56 PM
Raij|Away   That's retarded, first of all. It's hard t...   Feb 19 2008, 01:12 AM
Ebe   And while we're on the subject, while black pe...   Feb 19 2008, 02:26 AM
Rhiannon   HEY LET'S FLAME A BIT LESS RAI I wasn't ...   Feb 19 2008, 03:50 AM
Ebe   Why would black music be encouraging this? Rich W...   Feb 19 2008, 03:56 AM
jcdietz03   By singing about the bitches & hos, they are g...   Feb 20 2008, 02:08 AM
Ebe   Schools are racist in their own way by constantly ...   Feb 20 2008, 02:46 AM
Raijinili   For me to accept that you are correct, I must assu...   Feb 25 2008, 02:22 AM
jcdietz03   [quote name='Raijinili' post='55810' date='Feb 25 ...   Feb 25 2008, 03:47 AM
Raijinili   As scholarship money, perhaps. In the form of mone...   Feb 25 2008, 04:20 AM
Ebe   Woah woah woah. Why shouldn't we question 1 =...   Feb 25 2008, 04:45 AM
jcdietz03   The math book does not explain WHY 1 = 1. It simp...   Feb 25 2008, 06:02 PM
Raijinili   Science is less rigorous than mathematics. You can...   Feb 25 2008, 05:38 AM
Ebe   Yes yes (a - b) = 0, and hence in that line we are...   Feb 25 2008, 05:59 AM
Ebe   Right, I understand that you can do that with Math...   Feb 27 2008, 09:52 PM
Yuka   My dad's Japanese girlfriend had to prove that...   Feb 27 2008, 11:14 PM
Raijinili   It makes sense because there's no reason why i...   Feb 28 2008, 04:51 AM
Ebe   I suppose, in an extremely specific sense, we can ...   Feb 28 2008, 05:43 AM
Raijinili   Go to Wikipedia and learn about the Peano axioms, ...   Feb 29 2008, 09:38 PM
Ebe   Yes, I read the articles, I will keep this simple....   Mar 1 2008, 08:22 PM
Raijinili   And once again, there is no leap of faith if you d...   Mar 2 2008, 09:57 PM
Ebe   Of course, since I'm suggesting everything req...   Mar 4 2008, 07:40 PM
Raijinili   Ignorance. Oh wait, that can be solved with educa...   Mar 5 2008, 02:27 AM
Ebe   It's really quite terrifying when you follow p...   Mar 5 2008, 03:52 AM
Yuka   It's really quite terrifying when people have...   Mar 5 2008, 04:02 AM
Raijinili   You mean like Math, Yuka?   Mar 10 2008, 03:49 AM
Wally   A bit of an update, I read this in the paper today...   Dec 11 2008, 05:53 AM
Raijinili   More tl;dr They need 40 students, two classes, wi...   Dec 23 2008, 03:36 AM


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