Windows XP vs. Vista Options

[lilcases]

I'm thinking about upgrading to Vista, but is Vista really better then XP?

This post has been edited by lilcases: Jul 3 2007, 06:17 AM

[zesler]

Xp. Vista moved the location of some of the stuff(run for example isn't in the start menu), you need more ram to be able to use all the said functions and possibly a graphics card for the "aero" interface. Furthermore, you can change your XP to look like Vista with "aero" interface and various other functions.

Not that user friendly for those that have used Xp because of the different layout. Furthermore, you need to update software, hardware, because its a new OS. And some hardware/software may not have it availible yet so you have to wait on a company to produce drives to use it again.

Plus companies can still produce computers with XP until January 2008.

[jcdietz03]

Xp. Vista moved the location of some of the stuff(run for example isn't in the start menu), you need more ram to be able to use all the said functions and possibly a graphics card for the "aero" interface. Furthermore, you can change your XP to look like Vista with "aero" interface and various other functions.

Every power user uses Windows-R to access the run box. Presumably that still works???

Graphics and memory get cheaper every day.

I am surprised you didn't mention compatibility problems (Especially with games). Has anyone noticed anything w/ emulators?

DX10 guys: You need to say "DX10 looks better than DX9." Also there is one DX10 compatible game now: MS Flight Simulator. I will be a bigger deal in the future, but isn't now.

Does Vista really never crash? XP crashes extremely rarely for me - I can't remember the last time it did.

Microsoft wants too much money for something I don't need. I like the clean interface of XP. Aero - It has cool factor but I was never a cool guy.

Also, I tried Linux but found it to be impossible to set up and configure. There is too much not working stuff and not enough industry support of it (At least for home users) to be viable. All I wanted was my Zonet wireless card to talk to my router running WPA-PSK. I couldn't do it.

[Takeru-kun]

Hard Drives are not expensive... a little of $100 for 500GB hard drive is not expensive. Also, it doesn't take that much to switch. My friend runs it in an explorer window with a separate process. I see Macs doing it often. Although it does cost money to get the said OS $50~150 and software if needed $50~150 again, its often better because should it fail in one OS switch it. Furthermore, my giant computer I'm visiting sells the "Complete Windows Pack" where it allows you to run any and all windows , 3.1 NT, etc. Space 2GB. No format required and runs off additional windows created.

Well that's the difference. We're not talking about the "Complete Windows Pack", we're talking about Windows Vista. The boot time is long as a bitch. And laptops don't have expandable HD space, unless you're talking external hard drives, and externals are generally more expensive than internals.

Everything crashes. Thats how it goes. Its not perfect. It also depends on how you use the computer. The same also applies with me. It just about never crashes and even if I shut it off in the middle of something. I can boot it and it still works with no problems. Can't say no to that when you don't have a UPS.

Right. That's what I said. Everything crashes. But again, Vista just does a helluva lot less of it than XP (I've had terrible experiences with XP on my last three or four computers).

Only question, did your computer come with Ultimate or did you have to buy it and upgrade it.

It came with it, but even if I had bought it at the store, I would have reformatted my computer before installing it. Because, you know, that's clearly an option.

Every power user uses Windows-R to access the run box. Presumably that still works???

I have no idea what Windows R is.

Graphics and memory get cheaper every day.

It's still expensive at this point for Vista Premium Capable results.

I am surprised you didn't mention compatibility problems (Especially with games). Has anyone noticed anything w/ emulators?

No.

DX10 guys: You need to say "DX10 looks better than DX9." Also there is one DX10 compatible game now: MS Flight Simulator. I will be a bigger deal in the future, but isn't now.

True.

Does Vista really never crash? XP crashes extremely rarely for me - I can't remember the last time it did.

Vista never crashed for me. Not unless I induced the crash on my own by doing my usual experiments.

Microsoft wants too much money for something I don't need. I like the clean interface of XP. Aero - It has cool factor but I was never a cool guy.

Personally... I think XP's theme looks disgusting. Clashy colors and all. Vista accomplishes what Mac OS X accomplished: a clean look that's still very appealing, yet retains functionality and intuitivity. Of course, that depends on whether it's your cup of tea or not.

Also, I tried Linux but found it to be impossible to set up and configure. There is too much not working stuff and not enough industry support of it (At least for home users) to be viable. All I wanted was my Zonet wireless card to talk to my router running WPA-PSK. I couldn't do it.

Try Ubuntu.


This post would have been so much easier to write if Invision wasn't such epic failure. Get SMF.

This post has been edited by Takeru-kun: Jul 17 2007, 10:34 PM

[zesler]

Hard Drives are not expensive... a little of $100 for 500GB hard drive is not expensive. Also, it doesn't take that much to switch. My friend runs it in an explorer window with a separate process. I see Macs doing it often. Although it does cost money to get the said OS $50~150 and software if needed $50~150 again, its often better because should it fail in one OS switch it. Furthermore, my giant computer I'm visiting sells the "Complete Windows Pack" where it allows you to run any and all windows , 3.1 NT, etc. Space 2GB. No format required and runs off additional windows created.

Well that's the difference. We're not talking about the "Complete Windows Pack", we're talking about Windows Vista. The boot time is long as a bitch. And laptops don't have expandable HD space, unless you're talking external hard drives, and externals are generally more expensive than internals.

I'm not talking about Laptops. The Packs[Window packs] doesn't execute when your computer starts, or at least my friend's doesn't. Once it fully starts you execute it as a normal program. As for the mac/linux thing, it doesn't take that long for him as well.

Everything crashes. Thats how it goes. Its not perfect. It also depends on how you use the computer. The same also applies with me. It just about never crashes and even if I shut it off in the middle of something. I can boot it and it still works with no problems. Can't say no to that when you don't have a UPS.

Right. That's what I said. Everything crashes. But again, Vista just does a helluva lot less of it than XP (I've had terrible experiences with XP on my last three or four computers).

Bummer, well I guess I see what you mean about that. Hating XP and all.

Only question, did your computer come with Ultimate or did you have to buy it and upgrade it.

It came with it, but even if I had bought it at the store, I would have reformatted my computer before installing it. Because, you know, that's clearly an option.

Well I would do that too... Clean installs work better because your theoretically reformmating the drive, like new, and burning it all in.

Every power user uses Windows-R to access the run box. Presumably that still works???

I have no idea what Windows R is.

He's talking about the Hot Key [Windows Icon Key] + [R]. Yes that still executes the run window thankfully.

Graphics and memory get cheaper every day.

It's still expensive at this point for Vista Premium Capable results.

And the fact is new cards keep on coming out. The old ones do go one sale and if they don't sell off, they disappear(well they get scrapped and use in newer cards or remelted). So yes you are getting more memory but the good cards still cost a good computer. X_X

I am surprised you didn't mention compatibility problems (Especially with games). Has anyone noticed anything w/ emulators?

No.

Takeru-kun probably doesn't use emulators. Anyway you can probably find patches for that... I'm not so sure myself. EDIT:Yeah Vista cannot run emulators, well from what the site says. (http://www.jesperjuul.net/ludologist/?p=205)

DX10 guys: You need to say "DX10 looks better than DX9." Also there is one DX10 compatible game now: MS Flight Simulator. I will be a bigger deal in the future, but isn't now.

True.

Does Vista really never crash? XP crashes extremely rarely for me - I can't remember the last time it did.

Vista never crashed for me. Not unless I induced the crash on my own by doing my usual experiments.

Well, we all have our good and bad computers....

Microsoft wants too much money for something I don't need. I like the clean interface of XP. Aero - It has cool factor but I was never a cool guy.

Personally... I think XP's theme looks disgusting. Clashy colors and all. Vista accomplishes what Mac OS X accomplished: a clean look that's still very appealing, yet retains functionality and intuitivity. Of course, that depends on whether it's your cup of tea or not.

You could theoretically get software to change it to what it looks like. I changed my XP to look like a mac. I added to areo interface to it. Pure preference really.

Also, I tried Linux but found it to be impossible to set up and configure. There is too much not working stuff and not enough industry support of it (At least for home users) to be viable. All I wanted was my Zonet wireless card to talk to my router running WPA-PSK. I couldn't do it.

Try Ubuntu.


This post would have been so much easier to write if Invision wasn't such epic failure. Get SMF.

There are various other OSes as well.