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lilcases
post Jul 3 2007, 06:17 AM
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I'm thinking about upgrading to Vista, but is Vista really better then XP?

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post Jul 3 2007, 01:39 PM
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Xp. Vista moved the location of some of the stuff(run for example isn't in the start menu), you need more ram to be able to use all the said functions and possibly a graphics card for the "aero" interface. Furthermore, you can change your XP to look like Vista with "aero" interface and various other functions.

Not that user friendly for those that have used Xp because of the different layout. Furthermore, you need to update software, hardware, because its a new OS. And some hardware/software may not have it availible yet so you have to wait on a company to produce drives to use it again.

Plus companies can still produce computers with XP until January 2008.


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post Jul 15 2007, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(zesler @ Jul 3 2007, 01:39 PM) *

Xp. Vista moved the location of some of the stuff(run for example isn't in the start menu), you need more ram to be able to use all the said functions and possibly a graphics card for the "aero" interface. Furthermore, you can change your XP to look like Vista with "aero" interface and various other functions.

Every power user uses Windows-R to access the run box. Presumably that still works???

Graphics and memory get cheaper every day.

I am surprised you didn't mention compatibility problems (Especially with games). Has anyone noticed anything w/ emulators?

DX10 guys: You need to say "DX10 looks better than DX9." Also there is one DX10 compatible game now: MS Flight Simulator. I will be a bigger deal in the future, but isn't now.

Does Vista really never crash? XP crashes extremely rarely for me - I can't remember the last time it did.

Microsoft wants too much money for something I don't need. I like the clean interface of XP. Aero - It has cool factor but I was never a cool guy.

Also, I tried Linux but found it to be impossible to set up and configure. There is too much not working stuff and not enough industry support of it (At least for home users) to be viable. All I wanted was my Zonet wireless card to talk to my router running WPA-PSK. I couldn't do it.
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post Jul 17 2007, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(zesler @ Jul 6 2007, 02:34 AM) *

Hard Drives are not expensive... a little of $100 for 500GB hard drive is not expensive. Also, it doesn't take that much to switch. My friend runs it in an explorer window with a separate process. I see Macs doing it often. Although it does cost money to get the said OS $50~150 and software if needed $50~150 again, its often better because should it fail in one OS switch it. Furthermore, my giant computer I'm visiting sells the "Complete Windows Pack" where it allows you to run any and all windows , 3.1 NT, etc. Space 2GB. No format required and runs off additional windows created.

Well that's the difference. We're not talking about the "Complete Windows Pack", we're talking about Windows Vista. The boot time is long as a bitch. And laptops don't have expandable HD space, unless you're talking external hard drives, and externals are generally more expensive than internals.

QUOTE(zesler @ Jul 6 2007, 02:34 AM) *

Everything crashes. Thats how it goes. Its not perfect. It also depends on how you use the computer. The same also applies with me. It just about never crashes and even if I shut it off in the middle of something. I can boot it and it still works with no problems. Can't say no to that when you don't have a UPS.

Right. That's what I said. Everything crashes. But again, Vista just does a helluva lot less of it than XP (I've had terrible experiences with XP on my last three or four computers).

QUOTE(zesler @ Jul 6 2007, 02:34 AM) *

Only question, did your computer come with Ultimate or did you have to buy it and upgrade it.

It came with it, but even if I had bought it at the store, I would have reformatted my computer before installing it. Because, you know, that's clearly an option.

QUOTE(jcdietz03 @ Jul 15 2007, 03:07 PM) *

Every power user uses Windows-R to access the run box. Presumably that still works???

I have no idea what Windows R is.

QUOTE(jcdietz03 @ Jul 15 2007, 03:07 PM) *

Graphics and memory get cheaper every day.

It's still expensive at this point for Vista Premium Capable results.

QUOTE(jcdietz03 @ Jul 15 2007, 03:07 PM) *

I am surprised you didn't mention compatibility problems (Especially with games). Has anyone noticed anything w/ emulators?

No.

QUOTE(jcdietz03 @ Jul 15 2007, 03:07 PM) *

DX10 guys: You need to say "DX10 looks better than DX9." Also there is one DX10 compatible game now: MS Flight Simulator. I will be a bigger deal in the future, but isn't now.

True.

QUOTE(jcdietz03 @ Jul 15 2007, 03:07 PM) *

Does Vista really never crash? XP crashes extremely rarely for me - I can't remember the last time it did.

Vista never crashed for me. Not unless I induced the crash on my own by doing my usual experiments.

QUOTE(jcdietz03 @ Jul 15 2007, 03:07 PM) *

Microsoft wants too much money for something I don't need. I like the clean interface of XP. Aero - It has cool factor but I was never a cool guy.

Personally... I think XP's theme looks disgusting. Clashy colors and all. Vista accomplishes what Mac OS X accomplished: a clean look that's still very appealing, yet retains functionality and intuitivity. Of course, that depends on whether it's your cup of tea or not.

QUOTE(jcdietz03 @ Jul 15 2007, 03:07 PM) *

Also, I tried Linux but found it to be impossible to set up and configure. There is too much not working stuff and not enough industry support of it (At least for home users) to be viable. All I wanted was my Zonet wireless card to talk to my router running WPA-PSK. I couldn't do it.

Try Ubuntu.


This post would have been so much easier to write if Invision wasn't such epic failure. Get SMF.

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lilcases   Windows XP vs. Vista   Jul 3 2007, 06:17 AM
Leyviur   Better security, better layout, more intuitive, mo...   Jul 3 2007, 06:57 AM
Chaos Seraph   No brainer tbh. The only possible problems you m...   Jul 3 2007, 07:04 AM
zesler   Hard Drives are not expensive... a little of ...   Jul 25 2007, 02:32 AM
aerozero   If your computer can handle it, then go for it, th...   Jul 3 2007, 05:05 PM
Sauce XIV   While I've only operated XP until now, I'd...   Jul 3 2007, 07:03 PM
lilcases   Thanks,but I'll think about more though.   Jul 3 2007, 09:51 PM
blues 3   Thanks,but I'll think about more though. Ho...   Aug 1 2007, 02:03 PM
Chaos Seraph   Thats like saying that a DS isn't user friendl...   Jul 4 2007, 12:26 PM
zesler   Thats like saying that a DS isn't user friend...   Jul 4 2007, 01:50 PM
Chaos Seraph   Thats the point. It doesn't have one, the DS h...   Jul 4 2007, 04:14 PM
Leyviur   If you get lost in Windows Vista in any way after ...   Jul 4 2007, 05:27 PM
zesler   I'm just saying that because of how everything...   Jul 4 2007, 10:39 PM
Sauce XIV   That's just like saying playing RPGs are annoy...   Jul 5 2007, 01:11 AM
zesler   eh. Its dragged out too long and pointless(literal...   Jul 5 2007, 01:23 AM
Takeru-kun   Vista is, in almost every way possible, technologi...   Jul 5 2007, 06:50 AM
Sauce XIV   Buy Vista if... ... ...you're a hardcore game...   Jul 5 2007, 01:39 PM
zesler   Buy Vista if... [*]...XP crashes a lot, or is rid...   Jul 5 2007, 02:52 PM
Takeru-kun   Although I shouldn't argue, you make some good...   Jul 6 2007, 12:39 AM
zesler   I'll continue shall we? For starters, paral...   Jul 6 2007, 02:34 AM
SyphonVectorman   I was going to get a new computer, but then my par...   Aug 30 2007, 02:15 AM
Leyviur   Vista isn't buggy. Isn't not compaitble wi...   Aug 30 2007, 08:24 AM
zesler   Vista isn't buggy. Isn't not compaitble w...   Jan 4 2008, 05:01 PM
sandpenguin   Well, if it is buggy, why just update it? I know M...   Aug 30 2007, 01:26 PM
Raijinili   Everything is buggy. It's one of the first thi...   Aug 31 2007, 06:29 AM
Marionette   ...Jesus god, TL;DR posts guys. Anyway, I've h...   Aug 31 2007, 06:39 AM
Raijinili   I have a huge problem with Vista: It does a wacky ...   Jan 6 2008, 01:30 AM
The Angel of Ruin   I've had Vista(and my new PC) for about a mont...   Jan 7 2008, 01:32 PM
Teeky   I've had Vista(and my new PC) for about a mon...   Jan 7 2008, 11:54 PM
Geek4life07   ahhh.................this is the post i waiting fo...   Jan 9 2008, 11:09 AM
Captain Ahoge   I got a copy of Vista Ultimate for Christmas and s...   Jan 19 2008, 04:26 PM
Megaolix   I borrowed a friend's portable with Vista once...   Apr 17 2008, 12:23 AM
Astraea   Vista still has a lots of bugs since its new... th...   Apr 28 2008, 01:20 AM
Raijinili   My Vista laptop crashes randomly and without warni...   Apr 30 2008, 06:44 AM
Lux   Drop Windows all together and go get a Mac, or dow...   Nov 22 2008, 06:24 PM
Raijinili   Back in June, I smashed my laptop after another cr...   Nov 23 2008, 04:52 AM
Neon_the_Chao   I don't actually have Vista, but I like it. Bl...   Nov 25 2008, 02:34 PM
Leyviur   If you don't have it, how can you encounter bu...   Nov 25 2008, 03:51 PM
Aether   If you don't have it, how can you encounter b...   Nov 25 2008, 09:00 PM
Neon_the_Chao   My friend has Vista on his computer, so I've u...   Dec 12 2008, 05:18 PM
LukewarmHoliday   Not much I can say that hasn't been said... V...   Jan 4 2009, 04:38 AM


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