Yet another school shooting., And you thought Columbine was bad... Options

[Ethronix]

For all those who live on the east coast of the U.S. there was yet another shcool shooting today, at Virigina Tech College, and according to the news there were at least 31 deaths not counting the shooters suicide, the police have not yet released a name though they have an idea who done it. Of course most of the U.S. residents know about this already since the news has been all over it all day, but that brings up the still un-answered question of why, which in turn will no doubt result in some form of blame on the violent nature of american movies,games, etc.

On a side note this attack happened almost exactly 8 years after the columbine shootings(April 20, 1999)



Penny for your thoughts?

[Dr Strum]

Do you think a child at the age of 12 has enough common sense to properly raise a child?

Childrearing has nothing to do with common sense.

What country do you live in? If you think the American judicial system is not warped, maybe you should take another look around you. You might see things my way for once.

Someone doesn't know their fifty states; I live in America, and I think our Judicial system is very nicely crafted. I also think you're spewing crap because you've yet to give an actual explanation as to why you think our Judicial system is terrible, merely that it is corrupt and bad and zomgtheyrfail.

What the hell are you talking about? Explain yourself.

Procreation is a natural act, to require a license for it would be no different from limiting eating and sweating.

Did I say that you said you did? Did I even imply that you did?

Yes, you did. I'll walk you through it. I said the death penalty is a waste. You said it was necessary because it was far too expensive to keep them locked up, implying that prison is the only alternative to death.

Did you know Lancaster California took the second death of 2007? Yes, the second murder of the year 2007 was done in Lancaster, like across the street from my apartment even. People joked around saying “Yeah, we’re second place!”

You can hardly blame them; if people are actually recording that Lancaster "took the second death of 2007," then it's only those people's faults.

First off, jaywalking is not a crime;

It is against the law, it is a crime. The size of punishment doesn't matter.

Then I guess they should’ve thought twice about the life style they chose to live, don’t you?

Oh really? So a girl driving in her car with her boyfriend stops at a convenience store at his request. He goes in to get something. While he's in there, he knifes the clerk and empties the register. They leave. She doesn't know what happens until she's arrested the next day for accessory to murder and theft. Not cheap sentences. Or, how about this, you get pulled over by a cop, maybe you were a bit over the speed limit, maybe you just have a busted taillight. Your friend just happens to have a bit of coke in his back pocket. What happens to you if the police officer finds out? Accessory to felony possession.

Gangbanging is no dream, and if you think it is then you’re no better then the rappers themselves.

Anything can be a dream. Honor, morality and ethics have nothing to do with what is and isn't a dream.

Because Linkin Park’s lyrics don’t involve a life of crime.

I'd recommend someone a life of crime long before a life of emotional death or outright suicide. Anyways, I would like to point out that Linkin Park did and album with well known rapper Jay-Z.

Newsflash! Rapping is not singing. You don’t need to carry a tune to speak at an annoyingly fast rate.

Newsflash! Tone is merely one of the six basic elements of music.

[Lord Ryo]

Childrearing has nothing to do with common sense.

I feel sorry for whatever children you might have. Without common sense, you can’t properly steer a growing child in the right direction. It is a parent’s job to make the right choices when raising a child. If they don’t have at least common sense, something is going to be horribly wrong.

Procreation is a natural act, to require a license for it would be no different from limiting eating and sweating.

When eating and sweating becomes a problem in the world, we’ll argue about it then.

Yes, you did. I'll walk you through it. I said the death penalty is a waste. You said it was necessary because it was far too expensive to keep them locked up, implying that prison is the only alternative to death.

No, implying that death is the best alternative, not the only. Or they can spend less money maintaining the prisons and throw them in a dark room with no light or food, that way it wouldn’t cost so much.

It is against the law, it is a crime. The size of punishment doesn't matter.

Did you know that in Minnesota it is illegal it eat hamburgers on a Sunday? And were you aware that driving a red car down Lake Street Minneapolis is a federal crime? And can you believe that crossing the state boarders of Minnesota is illegal while a duck is sitting on your head? As ridiculous as these may sound, it’s all true, and these laws are still in effect. Although no one in the current time will ever be prosecuted for committing these “crimes” and they will never hold up in court, are these still considered to be crimes if you commit them? There’s just not enough time for anyone to go through the books and scratch off the unnecessary “crimes”. Although jaywalking is a little more serious then these, it’s still not “crime standards”. You won’t find a case of jaywalking on the front page or the 11:00 news.

Oh really? So a girl driving in her car with her boyfriend stops at a convenience store at his request. He goes in to get something. While he's in there, he knifes the clerk and empties the register. They leave. She doesn't know what happens until she's arrested the next day for accessory to murder and theft. Not cheap sentences. Or, how about this, you get pulled over by a cop, maybe you were a bit over the speed limit, maybe you just have a busted taillight. Your friend just happens to have a bit of coke in his back pocket. What happens to you if the police officer finds out? Accessory to felony possession.

Tell me I didn’t have to exclude those wrongfully imprisoned? No, someone who is setting on death row for a crime they didn’t commit isn’t being served justice and are not included in “being where they belong”.

Anything can be a dream. Honor, morality and ethics have nothing to do with what is and isn't a dream.

Dreams should be pleasant, and for someone to find pleasure in doing cruel things is not human. I think nightmare would be a better word for you to use.

I'd recommend someone a life of crime long before a life of emotional death or outright suicide. Anyways, I would like to point out that Linkin Park did and album with well known rapper Jay-Z.

Why, a life of crime will only lead to a life emotional death or suicide, are you trying to torture people? And fill me in, I’m not too familiar with that album, but were there excessive swearing and profanity on that album. Did Chester Bennington scream about bitches, hoes, and drugs? I doubt it, it’s not his style.

Newsflash! Tone is merely one of the six basic elements of music.

Yes, but music covers more than just singing. And no one would consider talking to be a musical art.

[Leyviur]

I feel sorry for whatever children you might have. Without common sense, you can’t properly steer a growing child in the right direction. It is a parent’s job to make the right choices when raising a child. If they don’t have at least common sense, something is going to be horribly wrong.

You are the biggest dumbfuck I have ever seen. Childrearing does not always involve common sense. Ironically the person in this thread who is the last person to have a child is you. Stop acting like you know everything about parenting when you're not even a parent.

When eating and sweating becomes a problem in the world, we’ll argue about it then.

You completely missed the point of his argument, moron. And how would you limit childbirths anyway? By making it illegal all you're doing is having people do it in secret instead of how things are now. Nice solution, idiot, now you've upped the crime rate.

No, implying that death is the best alternative, not the only. Or they can spend less money maintaining the prisons and throw them in a dark room with no light or food, that way it wouldn’t cost so much.

Do you have any idea how much money the death penalty costs? Do you remember the prison riot years ago that made prisons so well maintained today? Oh wait, you're a kid. I shouldn't expect you to know any of this stuff. You're too ignorant.

Did you know that in Minnesota it is illegal it eat hamburgers on a Sunday? And were you aware that driving a red car down Lake Street Minneapolis is a federal crime? And can you believe that crossing the state boarders of Minnesota is illegal while a duck is sitting on your head? As ridiculous as these may sound, it’s all true, and these laws are still in effect. Although no one in the current time will ever be prosecuted for committing these “crimes” and they will never hold up in court, are these still considered to be crimes if you commit them? There’s just not enough time for anyone to go through the books and scratch off the unnecessary “crimes”. Although jaywalking is a little more serious then these, it’s still not “crime standards”. You won’t find a case of jaywalking on the front page or the 11:00 news.

I can't believe you're comparing ridiculous laws to jaywalking. That's retarded logic and you know it. And news? All news does is report on the worst crimes, not all of them. The sheer volume of crime is such that if the news was to broadcast every single crime that happens in a country, there would be nothing BUT news on. If a murder doesn't make it onto the news it suddenly isn't a crime? Do you take everything the media throws out to be gospel? What are you, retarded? Don't make me laugh. You obviously have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

Tell me I didn’t have to exclude those wrongfully imprisoned? No, someone who is setting on death row for a crime they didn’t commit isn’t being served justice and are not included in “being where they belong”.

Oh really. What about those people who killed someone to protect a loved one? What about those people who stole to provide for their families? Not everything is black and white, dipshit. Only kids like you think in those terms. The rest of us know things about shades of gray that you refuse to acknowledge.

Dreams should be pleasant, and for someone to find pleasure in doing cruel things is not human. I think nightmare would be a better word for you to use.

Why are you even arguing about this?

Why, a life of crime will only lead to a life emotional death or suicide, are you trying to torture people? And fill me in, I’m not too familiar with that album, but were there excessive swearing and profanity on that album. Did Chester Bennington scream about bitches, hoes, and drugs? I doubt it, it’s not his style.

So instead of encouraging people to be criminals you're encouraging them to be stupid bitchy emos who write poems and do nothing to contribute to society? Your view of a 'better world' sure is shitty. Instead of people who take away from society we have spineless shits who won't do anything because they're crawling in their skin.

Yes, but music covers more than just singing. And no one would consider talking to be a musical art.

You obviously have no idea what can pass for art these days.