Yet another school shooting., And you thought Columbine was bad... Options

[Ethronix]

For all those who live on the east coast of the U.S. there was yet another shcool shooting today, at Virigina Tech College, and according to the news there were at least 31 deaths not counting the shooters suicide, the police have not yet released a name though they have an idea who done it. Of course most of the U.S. residents know about this already since the news has been all over it all day, but that brings up the still un-answered question of why, which in turn will no doubt result in some form of blame on the violent nature of american movies,games, etc.

On a side note this attack happened almost exactly 8 years after the columbine shootings(April 20, 1999)



Penny for your thoughts?

[Irysa]

Hm, what exactly do you think of death metal?

I resent that. Even in the genre of Pornogrind, frequent swearing isn't customary, the lyrics can be basic, but simply illustrate what some may conceive to be disgusting situations.


If you are of a "sensitive" disposition, its your own fault for clicking this example.

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Gouged labia ripped
Lacarated cunt lips
Your vagina is anvulsed
As your cervical canal is divulged

Split to the anus... Open wide
Probing scalpels... Thrust inside

Menstruating mess, bleeding and thrashed
Urethral meat bleeds, the pulsating feast

Etc. Death Metal doesn't necessarily even cover this typically, many bands, for example, Death ( Pioneering band in the genre ) have songs with deeper meanings, such as "Symbolic", as Chuck put it, "A song about life, which we must share, its ups and downs, of lost innocence"

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Symbolic acts - so vivid
Yet at the same time
We're invisible

Savor what you feel and what you see
Things that may not seem important now
But may be tomorrow

Do you remember when
Things seemed so eternal?
Heroes were so real...
Their magic frozen in time
The only way to learn
Is be aware and hold on tight

I close my eyes
And sink within myself
Relive the gift of precious memories
In need of a fix called innocence

If that was simply a joke at Ryo, I'm stupid enough to have missed it.

This post has been edited by Chaos Seraph: Apr 20 2007, 03:36 PM

[Lord Ryo]

You know why? Because there's nothing you really can do. Crime is one of those things that you can never do away with, as it is part of human nature to do stuff like that.

Crime, in our human nature?! Well maybe, but just because we have the power to do something, doesn’t mean we should do it.

There's a problem with your thinking, although it does seem to have a good amount of thought into it. See, one, people can easily prevent hunting, driving, and selling. However, you can't always gauruntee that you can have null chances of having a child, so by apparently having this so called "license" to have a child, you're technically needing to have a "license" to have sex, which in its own right is ridiculously farfetched. Take on that one, Ryo.

Watch closely Sauce. Or should I say read closely… *Mwuahahahaha!*

That's silly. Requiring a license to legally have a child will not stop the amount of babies born. I highly doubt it will even make much of a difference. And if it could, that would make people get punished over something really stupid, and I'm sure it would make abortions more common. You know, more death. A piece of paper can't stop childbirth.

I never said needing a license to have sex *I don’t want that…* but it would actually do a lot of good. *The child license not the sex license…* You see having a child takes much more than a few minutes in bed with someone, it actually takes a skill, no, raising a child takes skill, similar to hunting, and selling, *driving not included due to the increasing number of inexperienced driver on the streets today* Although there are ways of preventing child birth without eliminating the fun. *No, I am not recommending that all women get their tubes tied. Forgive me.* What do you expect for those babies born by 12 year old girls? Do you think a child at the age of 12 has enough common sense to properly raise a child? Didn’t think so. So many lives are born wasted, I wouldn’t expect a childbearing license to limit the number of babies born, but hey, maybe we can do with those who decide to break this new found law the same as we do those who sell without a license, or drive without a license, lock them up! Oh wait, then that goes back to our judicial system not working… It seems there’s no cure for crime. But no, it wouldn’t be punishing someone for a “stupid” reason, preventing the spread of further destruction of this world is not a stupid idea. Those who would legally possess a license would more than likely go about things in the right way, especially if it were extremely difficult to obtain. *Unlike driving licenses...* Overall it just seems kids nowadays aren’t growing up and entering this world with the basics of life, and if someone, anyone, anything, can help this, I’m all up for it, after all; it's our generation that has to suffer for it.

Wrong on two accounts. You can easily turn on the TV or listen to the radio, it just involves some effort on your part to choose stations that don't have that kind of language. There's multiple stations for a reason, you know.

Secondly, mainstreem/popular rap is NOT like that. First off, there are not that many swearing words IN A ROW. Usually they go like two or three, then use some other words, then go back. They do this through whole songs…

I added a joking comment about me over exaggerating the situation, it was right in the middle of my post so you have no excuse for not reading it.

But yes, that much swearing usually is not included in rap songs, but it’s pretty close, which is what I was trying to display, that it’s unnecessary.

Also, not all gangsters are stupid; that's just stereotyping.

Anyone who would even consider gangbanging is screwed up in the head, and anyone who is screwed up in the head in that sense is stupid.

If you believe that, then why would you blame their music before video games?

Because video games are taken even less serious. Hey, maybe it would be better if people actually set out on a journey to change the world for the better, to fight evil entities to prove their future, to learn new summons and put them to good use. Wait, why aren’t people following video games in the first place…

The judicial system is not warped. I mean, if you don't want legal rights, you can leave America, that's fine.

What country do you live in? If you think the American judicial system is not warped, maybe you should take another look around you. You might see things my way for once.

There should also be a fine for quoting a stand up comedian's act in a real discussion. Driving, hunting and selling are not natural, procreation is.

What the hell are you talking about? Explain yourself.

Did I say prison was an appealing alternative?

Did I say that you said you did? Did I even imply that you did?

You're confusing the judicial system with the penal system.

The penal system is a lower branch than the judicial system. If a higher power can’t help our country, who can?

Mind telling us where that is? Because I have a hard time believing that all jaywalking is done with gang related intent, I doubt all the "California stops" that occur each day are gang related…

Dear Sturmy, where do I live you may ask? Why I live in a small town located in the southern California area. It’s called Lancaster, which is also part of what is known as the Antelope Valley, although it is still within the County of Los Angeles.

Sincerely, Lord Ryo

My 100% statement was yet another over exaggeration. Just saying there is s lot of crime in my city just doesn’t cut it, what city doesn’t have crime? Did you know Lancaster California took the second death of 2007? Yes, the second murder of the year 2007 was done in Lancaster, like across the street from my apartment even. People joked around saying “Yeah, we’re second place!” And guess what, it was gang related. Wow, why am I not surprised. First off, jaywalking is not a crime; technically you can get a ticket and be fined for it but more than likely unless you have a bad reputation with the cops you’ll get no more then a warning at most. So that was a really bad example, but you’re free to try again, even the judicial system can’t stop that.

I highly doubt all that music you download is to distribute to your gang bangin' buddies in the 'hood.

lol. Oh Sturm, you crack me up! ^^ It’s when you say things like that make me wish we didn’t argue so much. Who knows, maybe we could have been better friends. What would have happened had we met under different circumstances? After all, we spend so much time talking on your message board, yet we’ve never had a civil conversation. We should try it once.

Do you realize the extent of psychological pressure that prisoners are under?

Then I guess they should’ve thought twice about the life style they chose to live, don’t you?

People actually live similar hard lives out there, with gangs and fear.

So that makes it ok to go out and do the same thing, good thinking Raijinili. *sigh*

Making up for it? They make money off of it, which makes up for it a bit... But seriously, you don't get it. People relate to the rapper's words. They relate to the dreams that the rapper presents.

Dreams? So the new American dream is to go out and gangbang, to become rich by rapping about gangbanging, to try to justify why you gangbang in the first place?! Gangbanging is no dream, and if you think it is then you’re no better then the rappers themselves.

Even worse, half the LP songs are about the guy spiting someone, leaving someone, defying someone. Basically, being whiny. How is this any worse than singing about your childhood?

Because Linkin Park’s lyrics don’t involve a life of crime.

Many rappers sing parts of their songs, and many of the "complaining about childhood" songs include singing. So no, "singing about your childhood" is accurate enough.

Newsflash! Rapping is not singing. You don’t need to carry a tune to speak at an annoyingly fast rate.

This post has been edited by Lord Ryo: Apr 21 2007, 08:31 AM