Advice on defeating Aegina's valk squad in Framm?, How best to do things the hard way Options

[Greyhawk]

Can anyone offer advice on the best way to handle Aegina's group of [High]'d valks that appear on BF15-3? Aside from avoiding them, that is. I'm trying to get as many items as possible and I really want that Golden Wheat thats behind them (not to mention the sword Aegina is carrying).

[Raijinili]

No, you said those were HIS assumptions, making his point correct UNDER said assumptions.

They were THE assumptions because Suzu said that "if (assumptions) are true, then Durant is the best for the job." The statement in question (the one that can be right or wrong) is the conditional, NOT that Durant is the best for the job. I proved that the conditional is true.

No, YOU said that he would only be wrong under my assumptions, to which I retorted that I even said in the long term most, if not all, would hold off on using the Warp Shoes, but that we were not talking about the long term so it was irrelevant.

You: "Roswell and Rosary are far better at getting the Wheat."
Suzu: "Not if you got Rosary and want to get the Dragon Killer, which is way better then the Wheat (My personal opinion)"
You: "How does a better purpose on a different battlefield cause her to be worse at getting the Wheat?"

Suzu's response was a conditional: "If you assume that you got Rosary and want the DK, then Rosary and Roswell are not better at getting the wheat." The conditional is true if, whenever Rosary or Roswell is better at getting the wheat, you don't want DK or you didn't pick Rosary.

You then responded that this doesn't make her worse at getting the wheat (ignoring the fact that Suzu didn't claim that Durant was better at getting the wheat without the conditions, thereby making your argument a Straw Man fallacy). Whenever Suzu said that Durant was better at getting the wheat, it was under the conditions that would only apply for the long term.

YOU might not have been talking about the long term, but you were the only one. Suzu kept trying to bring in the long term, but you brushed it off and continued attacking a weaker target that you made up.

No, you ignored that we were already at the point that you had ignored the entire thread, and drew back to an assumption of a long term goal. This is just bad form.

Show me where Suzu ever said that Durant was the best, without a long-term conditional goal.

Edit: He said "best way to defeat Aegina's troops", not "best way to get the wheat."

This post has been edited by Raijinili: Mar 25 2007, 06:59 PM