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Lord Ryo
post Feb 6 2007, 08:06 AM
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Today, the 6th of February marks a special day for Japan's #1 J-Pop singer, Tomoko Kawase, or better known as Tommy Heavenly6! She turns 32 today and anyone who shares a common interest can stop by and give a special shout out to our one and only Tommy! ^^ There's cake and ice cream so don't be shy, no gift required just the time you contribute will be enough to put a smile on someone's face.

So...HAPPY BIRTHDAY TOMMY! WE LOVE YOU!

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post Feb 12 2007, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Sturm)
J-Pop, like Pop, is regularly a synonym for crap. I try to avoid it.
Except J-Pop isn't like American pop. Instead, it's an all-encompassing term for popular music. If they did that here, rap would be A-pop.
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No, baiting is when you make a statement in order to anger people.
Or provoke in general.
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He didn't say it was crap. He said it was regulary a SYNONYN for crap. I think you need to take reading comprehension classes...
I think you need to take reading interpretation classes. Sturm was trolling him with that comment.
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He said IS as if it were fact, which it's not. Only if the entire world agreed would it then be a fact. Therefore him saying it IS crap makes it only his opinion. Meybe you should take some reading comprehension classes, or is that too hard for you to comprehend.
He QUALIFIED his statement with the word "regularly". As in the converse (I think it was) of "not always". Maybe you should take "if you're gonna be a smartass don't make any mistakes" classes.
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And then said that J-Pop is crap. If he doesn't like J-Pop, or tries to avoid it, why did he post here? To be a smart ass. Can you comprehend that one smart ass?
Let's try this:
THE RIGHT TO POST IS NOT A FUNCTION OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE WITH THE TOPIC CREATOR'S IMPLIED OPINIONS

"IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING NICE TO SAY DON'T SAY ANYTHING" IS NOT A RULE ON FORUMS

QUOTE(Chaos Seraph)
Hence the regulary. There is crap in every genre, denying that is plain stupidity. He was explaining that he did not listen to it because he considered there to be rather more crap in the genre than elsewhere.
The IMPLICATION of his statement was that J-Pop was MOSTLY crap, not that it had SOME crap, even though the literal interpretation would only mean "there exists crap in the genre".
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But when he answered with a “J-Pop is regularly a synonym for crap” he threw me off, how do you answer a question with a stupid statement that doesn’t make sense?
He actually said he avoided it because it was usually crap, not that it was complete crap. It was more explanatory than inflammatory.

How would you better phrase what he wanted to say? Add "IMO"?
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Now you're just killing your argument. You're agreeing with me and disagreeing with me at the same time over the same point. :\

The fact is, he gave his opinion, which I would agree with, because you asked for it.
He agreed with the opinion. He did not agree with claiming it as fact.

And he didn't ask for an opinion, he asked for an explanation.
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Wow, I’m really surprised at how many people don’t know such basic words but continue to use them as if they do. I’ll repeat this one last time for the reading impaired.
Wow, I'm really (NOT) surprised that people are being jerks about how to interpret words and get the interpretations wrong themselves.
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When I asked Sturm why he didn’t know who Tommy Heavenly was I was expecting something along the lines of “No, I’m not into J-Pop.” or a “No, I just haven’t heard that name before.” I mean those are proper answers to my question. Yet I received a “J-Pop is regularly a synonym for crap, I try to avoid it.” So I assume Sturm doesn’t like J-Pop, there’s the answer to my question. But then he says “I never said I don’t like J-Pop.” So if he doesn’t not like J-Pop, then he never really answered my question to begin with, but rather stated an opinion. And no, it’s not necessary to support the reasons behind your opinions; I didn’t ask why or why not he didn’t like J-Pop.
"I try to avoid [J-Pop]" isn't a reason that he doesn't recognize a certain J-Pop artist?

And no, it's not necessary for him to keep from adding certain comments just because someone might get offended by opinion stated as fact.

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Lord Ryo   HAPPY BIRTHDAY! To someone we should all know   Feb 6 2007, 08:06 AM
Chaos Seraph   Who?   Feb 6 2007, 01:25 PM
Dr Sturm   I've never heard of her.   Feb 6 2007, 01:27 PM
Lord Ryo   Well, so much for that idea. This place is boring,...   Feb 7 2007, 03:33 AM
Chaos Seraph   Thats odd. Let me write that again. Hence the re...   Feb 9 2007, 04:07 PM
Lord Ryo   I’ll agree that each genre has something t...   Feb 10 2007, 08:03 AM
Chaos Seraph   Now you're just killing your argument. You...   Feb 10 2007, 09:48 AM
Dr Sturm   J-Pop, like Pop, is regularly a synonym for crap. ...   Feb 7 2007, 03:43 AM
Lord Ryo   That's just your own opinion, which I didn...   Feb 7 2007, 05:35 AM
Chaos Seraph   That's just your own opinion, which I didn...   Feb 7 2007, 04:13 PM
Dr Sturm   As you said, opinion; not baiting. Although, opini...   Feb 7 2007, 05:42 AM
Lord Ryo   As you said, opinion; not baiting. Although, opin...   Feb 8 2007, 04:39 AM
aerozero   I listen to J-pop sometimes, but I rarely look at ...   Feb 7 2007, 06:52 AM
Lord Ryo   Why do I always mess that up? Just ignore the quot...   Feb 8 2007, 04:41 AM
Dr Sturm   No, baiting is when you make a statement in order ...   Feb 8 2007, 04:52 AM
Marionette   orz. I can't leave you guys alone for a second...   Feb 8 2007, 04:56 AM
Lord Ryo   You didn't say what...? And even after fi...   Feb 8 2007, 05:17 AM
Chaos Seraph   You didn't say what...?He didn't say it...   Feb 8 2007, 04:21 PM
Lord Ryo   [quote name='Lord Ryo' post='36928' date='Feb 8 2...   Feb 9 2007, 03:54 AM
Lord Ryo   Alright! I'm getting the hang of it now...   Feb 8 2007, 05:18 AM
Marionette   I... see. XD;;   Feb 8 2007, 02:55 PM
aerozero   You know what, I just realized that this Saturday ...   Feb 9 2007, 12:45 AM
Lord Ryo   DAMN IT!   Feb 9 2007, 03:55 AM
Lord Ryo   Wow, I’m really surprised at how many peopl...   Feb 10 2007, 11:32 AM
Chaos Seraph   When I asked Sturm why he didn’t know who To...   Feb 10 2007, 08:09 PM
Marionette   Hey, guys. Stop arguing. Either find something rel...   Feb 10 2007, 03:10 PM
aerozero   It sures seems like a lot of arguments break out h...   Feb 10 2007, 06:35 PM
Diablo   Uh, I think I know who you're talking about......   Feb 10 2007, 08:43 PM
Lord Ryo   Thank you Diablo, that was all I asked for in the ...   Feb 12 2007, 06:50 AM
Lord Ryo   Who is he to say that J-Pop or anything for that ...   Feb 13 2007, 04:09 AM
Chaos Seraph   Thanks Rai.   Feb 12 2007, 11:22 PM
Raijinili   What, for showing how you were wrong?   Feb 13 2007, 12:50 AM
Chaos Seraph   What, for showing how you were wrong? Yup. I kne...   Feb 13 2007, 09:55 AM
Rhiannon   I have one quick thing to say. I mean, two. He ...   Feb 13 2007, 04:38 AM
Lord Ryo   I have one quick thing to say. I mean, two. He...   Feb 13 2007, 06:06 AM
Leyviur   Who said anything about Dreamhost or the law subje...   Feb 14 2007, 10:32 AM
Raijinili   You were offended, and responded to provoke. ...   Feb 15 2007, 03:57 PM
Marionette   Since this thread has gone off it's rocker and...   Feb 15 2007, 05:05 PM


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