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Ethronix
post Jan 11 2007, 09:45 PM
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Ahem....

All right here goes:

Lets say a sane person who is not depressed or suicidal wants to take his/her own life. Should said person be allowed to? If no then why? And what gives someone the power to decide the fate of another. Likewise if yes then why should someone with nothing to gain by such an action should be allowed to simply "quit" life, die and likely depress close relatives?

Anyone up for arguing talking about this?


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post Jan 12 2007, 02:18 AM
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If someone wants to kill themselves they can go do it. They're them and I am me. I can try convincing them not to or to stop them from dying if I'm able, but in the end it's their choice and they'll have to take the consequences that lead from it.
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Ethronix   A semi-philosophical question   Jan 11 2007, 09:45 PM
Sauce XIV   Lets say a sane person who is not depressed or su...   Jan 11 2007, 09:50 PM
Dr Sturm   Then you have a black-and-white view of the world.   Jan 11 2007, 10:06 PM
Rhiannon   What makes you think that there is nothing to ga...   Jan 11 2007, 10:08 PM
Raijinili   Depends on the personal opinions of the value of l...   Jan 11 2007, 10:36 PM
Ethronix   Allow me to explain. Personally I think that huma...   Jan 12 2007, 02:17 AM
Buddhu23   Well, let's see. The view of someone on this ...   Jan 12 2007, 02:36 AM
Leyviur   ...because it does not belong to him in the first ...   Jan 12 2007, 09:01 AM
Dr Sturm   So who does it belong to?   Jan 12 2007, 02:39 AM
Rhiannon   Oh, okay. Well, what I said answers part of the ...   Jan 12 2007, 04:03 AM
Dr Sturm   Hey now, that sounds like some Yggdra talk, there...   Jan 12 2007, 02:47 PM
Leyviur   Just like everything else in this world? Pretty mu...   Jan 12 2007, 03:37 PM
Dr Sturm   You used religion as a basis for argument against ...   Jan 12 2007, 04:15 PM
Leyviur   I didn't use it against his point, I said it i...   Jan 12 2007, 04:30 PM
Dr Sturm   And what's your basis for the invalidation? Re...   Jan 12 2007, 04:35 PM
Leyviur   No, his use of religion.   Jan 12 2007, 04:58 PM
Chaos Seraph   Same difference. Its inadvertently related to the ...   Jan 12 2007, 05:10 PM
Dr Sturm   We're just going in a circle now, Ash.   Jan 12 2007, 05:10 PM
Leyviur   It's not the same. That's the whole point.   Jan 12 2007, 05:12 PM
Chaos Seraph   This argument instantly fails.   Jan 12 2007, 05:20 PM
Leyviur   You didn't state a reason. My argument stands...   Jan 12 2007, 05:26 PM
Chaos Seraph   Your argument has no reason in it either. Opinion...   Jan 12 2007, 05:29 PM
Leyviur   A religion's rules counts as opinion, so any a...   Jan 12 2007, 05:31 PM
Chaos Seraph   k But it still fails.   Jan 12 2007, 05:32 PM
Buddhu23   Oh, okay. Well, what I said answers part of the...   Jan 12 2007, 07:01 PM
Leyviur   So...then what's your opinion of it? Can you...   Jan 12 2007, 07:23 PM
Ethronix   Alright, one at a time!! First off that a...   Jan 12 2007, 07:28 PM
Leyviur   No not quite all of them, but of course you probab...   Jan 12 2007, 07:41 PM
Buddhu23   [quote name='Ethronix' post='35077' date='Jan 12 ...   Jan 12 2007, 10:55 PM
Ethronix   [quote name='Ethronix' post='35077' date='Jan 12 ...   Jan 12 2007, 09:37 PM
Rhiannon   Nah, it sounds like something I would say. It...   Jan 12 2007, 09:54 PM
Rzul   I've been watching this for a while, so I beli...   Jan 12 2007, 10:51 PM
Buddhu23   I've been watching this for a while, so I bel...   Jan 12 2007, 11:21 PM
Rzul   Buddhism is a religion. Just not as big as catholi...   Jan 12 2007, 11:00 PM
Buddhu23   Buddhism is a religion. Just not as big as cathol...   Jan 12 2007, 11:24 PM
Rzul   Buddhism is a religion. Just not as big as catho...   Jan 12 2007, 11:39 PM
Dr Sturm   Society. It's not at all philosophical. T...   Jan 12 2007, 11:44 PM
Buddhu23   Society. I was hoping someone would say this. Le...   Jan 13 2007, 12:05 AM
Dr Sturm   A religion is a system of beliefs pertaining to th...   Jan 13 2007, 12:11 AM
Buddhu23   But they are requirements nonetheless. Not very s...   Jan 13 2007, 12:17 AM
Dr Sturm   Morals are societal, ethics are personal.   Jan 13 2007, 12:25 AM
Buddhu23   But, in the eyes of the individual, the set of eth...   Jan 13 2007, 12:28 AM
Dr Sturm   ... No.   Jan 13 2007, 12:32 AM
Buddhu23   Eh? No to what? (I'm really not trying to ar...   Jan 13 2007, 12:35 AM
Leyviur   Buddhism is a religion. End of discussion.   Jan 13 2007, 04:32 AM
Ethronix   I knew something like this would happen....May as ...   Jan 13 2007, 06:49 PM
Raijinili   If they can draw strength from it, what's the ...   Jan 14 2007, 06:57 AM
Leyviur   If they can draw strength from it, what's the ...   Jan 14 2007, 04:34 PM
Raijinili   The fact that their choices have the most impact a...   Jan 15 2007, 05:20 AM
Swiyth   You only own as much of our life as we allow you t...   Jan 16 2007, 02:13 PM
Raijinili   If he doesn't know about the bomb, what choice...   Jan 16 2007, 05:43 PM
Swiyth   If he doesn't know about the bomb, even less a...   Jan 17 2007, 12:30 PM
Raijinili   The point wasn't whether he was afraid of it.   Jan 18 2007, 01:55 PM
Sauce XIV   Humans are more likely to find a way to stay alive...   Jan 18 2007, 09:29 PM
Raijinili   What?   Jan 29 2007, 03:23 AM
aerozero   Tolerance, in my opinion, should be the root of al...   Jan 29 2007, 05:48 AM
Raijinili   Why is tolerance so important? Because it's mo...   Jan 29 2007, 02:01 PM
Ethronix   First: tolerence is sometimes seen as a form of ...   Feb 3 2007, 05:10 AM
Raijinili   Intolerance? You don't tolerate people that ar...   Feb 4 2007, 06:59 AM


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