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| blues |
 Jan 3 2006, 04:31 AM
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I would like some clarification please if anyone knows the answer.
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| Philosopher |
Jan 8 2006, 09:07 AM
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I don't think the fact they're spirits means they're genderless.
For starters, gender is generally used by anthropologists to refer to 'sexual identity' (rather than biological sex). In this sense, gender refers to the way in which the world sees the individual, as well as the way individuals view themselves. The fact that Ursula and Seth are spirits doesn't change the fact that they're referred to in the feminine, nor the fact that they appear to others in a feminine form; hence, their gender is female. Also moving back to the whole inanimate objects thing, I think rather than a boat, we might want to consider something more similar to the case at hand (i.e. animate, but not biological). To this end, I'd have to ask about Pinocchio. The way I see it, he (or possibly it) was definately male, right? But unless Gepetto had some serious issues, I don't think the little doll had everything a Real Boy has...ahem. Anyways, I'm still open to debate, but for the time being, those are my thoughts on the matter. ^_^ |
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blues 3 Is seth a GUY? Jan 3 2006, 04:31 AM
Dr Sturm Seth and Seth-Ra are both genderless. Jan 3 2006, 04:51 AM blues 3 Hector+seth= genderless? Jan 3 2006, 04:57 AM Dr Sturm Yes. Jan 3 2006, 05:18 AM valkan I tend to think of Seth as a female, and Seth-Rah ... Jan 3 2006, 05:31 AM Dr Sturm Seth is a spirit.
Like Ursula. Jan 3 2006, 05:48 AM Swifty-chan That means Ursula's genderless too? Jan 3 2006, 06:56 AM Dr Sturm Yes. Jan 3 2006, 07:01 AM blues 3 But..but, ugh. Jan 3 2006, 08:26 AM Swifty-chan ... I always thought Ursula and Seth to be females... Jan 3 2006, 08:41 AM blues 3 I don't know what to think. However I'd li... Jan 3 2006, 08:47 AM untouch ursula should be a woman i doubt she is a man Jan 3 2006, 09:30 AM Swifty-chan Hector DID refer Ursula as 'she' Jan 3 2006, 09:33 AM regruBgniK And the game does refer to Seth-Rah as a "she... Jan 3 2006, 03:32 PM Dr Sturm Seth, Seth-ra and Ursula are genderless.
Saying th... Jan 3 2006, 05:31 PM blues 3 Which can be done. Jan 3 2006, 07:21 PM Dr Sturm But is it a woman then?
No. It's still an inan... Jan 3 2006, 07:29 PM blues 3 Fine I get it. Jan 3 2006, 07:35 PM MoloMowChow Yeah...but is Seth and Ursula inanimate objects?
... Jan 5 2006, 01:43 AM Dr Sturm People refer to boats as "she."
Does tha... Jan 5 2006, 02:04 AM MoloMowChow a boat is STILL an inanimate object...
Spirit or ... Jan 5 2006, 09:41 PM Dr Sturm But they aren't actually female. They only loo... Jan 5 2006, 09:48 PM fensti Molo has a good point though. Though I would have ... Jan 5 2006, 10:40 PM Dr Sturm Because they have no gender.
They are spirits, the... Jan 5 2006, 10:42 PM MoloMowChow the form the take on has to have a gender unless t... Jan 7 2006, 12:47 AM Dr Sturm The definition of a gender are the sexual organs. ... Jan 7 2006, 12:51 AM MoloMowChow Ooooh, your right! This changes my logic compl... Jan 7 2006, 01:29 AM Dr Sturm Well, to do that, they would have to take on an ac... Jan 7 2006, 01:37 AM Marionette Sturm don't poison the mind of others. XO They... Jan 7 2006, 03:30 AM Dr Sturm No they aren't.
They're spirits.
Differenc... Jan 7 2006, 03:36 AM Swifty-chan ... @_@ I think I sorta get what Sturm meant. Jan 7 2006, 05:46 AM Dr Sturm See?
That's why I love Swifty. Jan 7 2006, 05:48 AM Sajo Sturm's explaination makes total sense. Jan 8 2006, 04:10 AM Dr Sturm Are you mocking me?!
Because I will DEVOUR you... Jan 8 2006, 04:32 AM Sajo Uh.. were did you get the mocking me part? I just ... Jan 8 2006, 04:48 AM blues 3 Ok they are genderless I think I get it.
So even t... Jan 8 2006, 08:05 AM Swifty-chan Let's pretend you have a teddy bear. You named... Jan 8 2006, 08:24 AM blues 3 I said I got it -__-.
But thanks anyway. Jan 8 2006, 08:34 AM blues 3 No..not more arguing T_T.
Starting off with a ban... Jan 8 2006, 09:09 AM Dr Sturm I think you mean psychologists usually use gender ... Jan 8 2006, 09:16 AM DVA-Angel Who cares? Seth is gone and so is Ursula. Jan 8 2006, 10:17 AM Dr Sturm The same could be said to people who want to learn... Jan 8 2006, 10:24 AM regruBgniK http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6752/ha7vx.png
... Jan 8 2006, 02:49 PM Liger maul me if I'm wrong... but I think they'v... Jan 8 2006, 03:56 PM blues 3 I'm going to go with Sturm's idea. Jan 8 2006, 07:22 PM MoloMowChow see, in that screenshot?
Even though we have our ... Jan 8 2006, 08:38 PM chrishawke Many inanimate things are named after female names... Jan 8 2006, 10:56 PM Dr Sturm We've already been past that scene, so don... Jan 8 2006, 11:22 PM Chardes That would make you genderless, too, Sturm. Jan 9 2006, 12:52 PM DVA-Angel
XD back to square one XD ah the good old days... Jan 9 2006, 01:44 PM MoloMowChow
not according to the company that made the game ... Jan 9 2006, 05:52 PM Dr Sturm First, you played the English version. Seth, Seth-... Jan 9 2006, 07:41 PM Raijinili Then again, in the Japanese version, Set-Ra has a ... Jan 10 2006, 01:39 AM Dr Sturm Ledah looks like a chick, does that make him one?
... Jan 10 2006, 02:07 AM Raijinili Ein has a female voice actor. Doesn't make hi... Jan 10 2006, 02:15 AM Dr Sturm Oh yes, it is.
I've not heard a more girly voi... Jan 10 2006, 02:17 AM Raijinili Girly != Feminine
And you've never seen J... Jan 10 2006, 04:06 PM MoloMowChow no wonder he never TRULY lived happily after with ... Jan 10 2006, 05:57 PM Dr Sturm Girly is worse than feminine. Jan 10 2006, 10:51 PM regruBgniK <.> Errg, lets agree to disagree since in ga... Jan 11 2006, 01:07 AM Raijinili Girly is worse than feminine how?
For the sake of... Jan 11 2006, 01:32 PM Dr Sturm Because, feminine usually implies a female voice, ... Jan 11 2006, 03:14 PM Raijinili Except for the fact that little boys sound like li... Jan 11 2006, 06:26 PM Dr Sturm Maybe you did.
But I've always questioned your... Jan 11 2006, 07:15 PM Ryu_Dragon_King
I thought that Ursula was a girl because:
A.She... Jan 30 2006, 11:23 PM Dr Sturm I've had long hair before. Hair length is no i... Jan 30 2006, 11:37 PM Ryu_Dragon_King I've had long hair before. Hair length is no i... Jan 30 2006, 11:45 PM Dr Sturm No, I'm explaining that Ursula is not a girl. Jan 30 2006, 11:53 PM Ryu_Dragon_King Except she is. Jan 31 2006, 12:11 AM Dr Sturm No, Ursula isn't. Provide proof. Jan 31 2006, 12:51 AM Ryu_Dragon_King Okay, she's not a vehicle, and Hector reffers ... Jan 31 2006, 01:08 PM Marionette ...Y'all, does it really matter?
I say Ursula... Jan 31 2006, 02:53 PM Dr Sturm
But Lina has a physical form.
Ursula is just a s... Jan 31 2006, 03:10 PM Ryu_Dragon_King Still, can you prove that she's genderless? Jan 31 2006, 08:23 PM Dr Sturm A spirit wouldn't have a gender. Jan 31 2006, 09:19 PM Ryu_Dragon_King Okay. Yyou have a point. I agree, but don't yo... Feb 1 2006, 01:18 AM Dr Sturm Not likely. She was the spirit of Riviera. Its pro... Feb 1 2006, 01:31 AM Ryu_Dragon_King Makes sense, I guess. Feb 1 2006, 01:06 PM Raijinili Been over this. People often refer to their vehic... Feb 2 2006, 12:16 AM Dr Sturm I'd ride her. Feb 2 2006, 12:18 AM Leyviur I'd ride Cierra. Feb 2 2006, 12:20 AM Deadelus I'd ride the mermaids.....
But shes not a s... Feb 10 2006, 08:45 PM Dr Sturm No, IT doesn't.
Did it ever interact with phys... Feb 10 2006, 08:48 PM Deadelus But when Seth-Rah dies, she dies as well......
So... Feb 10 2006, 08:50 PM Dr Sturm Seth-Rah had a physical form. Because of Hector. Feb 10 2006, 08:51 PM Deadelus But that doesn't mean that Ursula had no Physi... Feb 10 2006, 08:56 PM Dr Sturm Why would Ursula fade away then, instead of leavin... Feb 10 2006, 08:58 PM Deadelus Ledah fade away, Malice, all the bosses.......
S... Feb 10 2006, 09:00 PM Dr Sturm Ledah left a corpse. His sprite may have faded awa... Feb 10 2006, 09:02 PM Deadelus What about the bosses.......
....................... Feb 10 2006, 09:11 PM Dr Sturm READ PREVIOUS POSTS
She is the spirit of the land.... Feb 10 2006, 09:13 PM Deadelus
Ok, ok, I get it........
She is the proctector ... Feb 10 2006, 09:20 PM Dr Sturm Note the SPIRIT part. Feb 10 2006, 09:21 PM Deadelus But she "HAD" a body, and it was female.... Feb 10 2006, 09:24 PM Dr Sturm No, she didn't have a body.
Where is your proo... Feb 10 2006, 09:26 PM Deadelus You just said "She is the spirit of the land.... Feb 10 2006, 09:34 PM Dr Sturm No, it doesn't.
Spirits don't necessitate ... Feb 10 2006, 09:40 PM Deadelus Yes!!!!!
But thats a greek st... Feb 10 2006, 09:44 PM
Dr Sturm What...?
I don't know anything about the ... Feb 10 2006, 10:51 PM |
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