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| Yuka |
 Aug 5 2006, 12:58 AM
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 We'll soak this parched earth with our own blood.  Group: Magi Posts: 2140 Joined: 27-July 06 From: Gensokyo Member No.: 177  |
I'm not too fond of using Durant for some bizarre reason, but does he become essential later in the game?
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| ChefMKT |
Sep 23 2006, 09:51 AM
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 whoosh Group: Knights Posts: 606 Joined: 23-February 06 From: Australia Member No.: 73 |
QUOTE Of course that's what I mean. Useless for you, good for your enemy. An example would be » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Bad example. Her A.Shield prevents the effects of all skills used against her so both Steal and Item Break are useless in this situation. QUOTE I'd really like to debate you on the LUK, but I don't know the Fencer's level twenty LUK, out of all the classes, he's the only one I don't have. :/ Anyways, I believe you're forgetting BF33 and BF34. Hmm, well, what's Milanor's LUK then? I definitely remember BF33, that has like one of the best BGM stage music in the entire game. If I recall, both battlefields only allow you to use Yggdra so obviously you can't use Milanor there to steal, sadly. However...if one was able to get Yggdra's LUK high enough, then getting the items would be guranteed. QUOTE YOU FORGET THE MORALE DAMAGE CALCULATION FORMULA; the Assassin has HORRIBLE level twenty ATK. Only 22. That's really bad. The Hunter does a little better, with 36, but the latter is still up to a 20% reduction in damage, the former up to 40%. Also, 22 and 36 ATK really isn't "ridiculously powerful." I thought the morale damage calculation didn't involve ATK. From what I know it's based on the TEC of the winner minus the GEN of the loser, the amount of soldiers left, any terrain bonuses, if the head is alive, and any other additional conditions such as a critical or certain skills used. Yes, their base ATK is pretty bad, but stat bonuses from MVPs can definitely turn the tides in their favour. Of course, that can be said for any unit but it applies especially to the Hunter / Assassin because the opponent can't counter their initial attack which puts them in the best position. And yes, I'm well aware that it can be the same for the opponent but that's what card skills are used for, to turn the tides of the battle in your favour. ~~~  |
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Sauce XIV A Question about Durant Aug 5 2006, 12:58 AM
Dr Sturm Potentially.
He can class change. Aug 5 2006, 01:43 AM Rhiannon He's not really needed. But sometimes you... Aug 5 2006, 03:53 AM Anonoymous BBS He's a Good unit in my experience.
I could ta... Sep 21 2006, 02:48 PM ChefMKT Use all units possible? Are you insane?! If yo... Sep 22 2006, 04:00 AM Dr Sturm It's really not that hard to use most units, M... Sep 22 2006, 04:05 AM ChefMKT I never said that it was hard using most units, I ... Sep 22 2006, 04:40 AM Dr Sturm First, fight people you're weak against. That... Sep 22 2006, 04:54 AM ChefMKT 1) Really? I didn't know that! D:
2) Fair... Sep 22 2006, 05:23 AM Dr Sturm
How could you not...? You fought, and beat, Gulca... Sep 22 2006, 05:55 AM ChefMKT
I didn't know it quadrupled against units you... Sep 22 2006, 06:37 AM Dr Sturm This is assuming two enemy parties each with the m... Sep 22 2006, 06:47 AM Anonoymous BBS It isn't that bad to use all your units, even ... Sep 22 2006, 02:11 PM ChefMKT Yes, but this game involves a lot of luck (Damn cr... Sep 22 2006, 10:55 PM Anonoymous BBS The enemy always finds a way to screw the player o... Sep 22 2006, 11:09 PM Dr Sturm How?
Yggdra may be a sword unit, but only Fencers ... Sep 22 2006, 11:15 PM Dr Sturm And it's not Ressurection, it's Reincarnat... Sep 22 2006, 11:15 PM ChefMKT Item Break is useless though because you could alw... Sep 22 2006, 11:23 PM Dr Sturm Except it's not useless. Just because you can ... Sep 22 2006, 11:46 PM ChefMKT
Then I wouldn't bother stealing that item, or... Sep 23 2006, 01:51 AM Dr Sturm
Because you want the enemy to have as high stats ... Sep 23 2006, 02:13 AM ChefMKT
Unless there's an item which is not equippabl... Sep 23 2006, 02:40 AM Dr Sturm I'm all but certain there is, but I thought w... Sep 23 2006, 03:21 AM ChefMKT
I wasn't arguing mostly in theory. >.> ... Sep 23 2006, 03:56 AM Sauce XIV I wasn't even aware my topic spawned such an i... Sep 23 2006, 03:58 AM Dr Sturm No it's not.Mayhap for you.Yet you move the Hu... Sep 23 2006, 04:35 AM ChefMKT
Yes it is.
I'm pretty sure Rhia had Milanor... Sep 23 2006, 04:56 AM Dr Sturm
Prove it.
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So the enemy can move nex... Sep 23 2006, 05:14 AM ChefMKT
Item Break: Breaks the item the unit is holding i... Sep 23 2006, 05:50 AM Dr Sturm
As I said, what about the items that are useless?... Sep 23 2006, 06:42 AM ChefMKT
If the items are useless, then at least steal it ... Sep 23 2006, 07:37 AM Dr Sturm Of course that's what I mean. Useless for you,... Sep 23 2006, 08:28 AM Dr Sturm Yes, bad example, but you're wrong. At least, ... Sep 23 2006, 05:22 PM Rhiannon
YOU'RE MORE WRONG THAN CHEF IS BECAUSE CHEF ... Sep 23 2006, 06:51 PM Dr Sturm No, I mean about the A.Shield blocking skills.
A.S... Sep 23 2006, 08:13 PM Rhiannon Nobody cares about the technicalities. It's a ... Sep 23 2006, 09:50 PM Dr Sturm It doesn't matter if it's a bad example, i... Sep 23 2006, 09:54 PM ChefMKT
I thought we were comparing Item Break's use,... Sep 23 2006, 11:11 PM Dr Sturm You conveniently ignored my most recent message ab... Sep 23 2006, 11:39 PM ChefMKT
Yes, it was an example where an item is useful to... Sep 24 2006, 12:14 AM Dr Sturm I never said Item Break is better than Steal... O... Sep 24 2006, 12:28 AM ChefMKT
Okay then, you said Item Break is not useless but... Sep 24 2006, 01:04 AM Dr Sturm It is. When Steal cannot be used.
But I thought ... Sep 24 2006, 01:23 AM Raijinili If you can't provide an in-game example where ... Sep 24 2006, 01:45 AM ChefMKT
So destroying a useful item is better than pickin... Sep 24 2006, 01:48 AM Dr Sturm Situations when Steal cannot be used but Item Brea... Sep 24 2006, 01:48 AM Dr Sturm Do you have the LUK to pick it up? Circumstances.... Sep 24 2006, 02:06 AM ChefMKT
There's always items which give guranteed ite... Sep 24 2006, 03:03 AM Dr Sturm
Which you probably have to steal or have LUK to ... Sep 24 2006, 03:34 AM ChefMKT
You can find the 4-leaf clover on the ground.
I... Sep 24 2006, 04:05 AM Dr Sturm Isn't it random if you get it?BLOOD CLAW
GENOC... Sep 24 2006, 04:47 AM ChefMKT
Yes, but it's still an example of an item whi... Sep 24 2006, 05:21 AM Dr Sturm And you said I made a bad example.Except the Hunt... Sep 24 2006, 05:57 AM ChefMKT
My example is valid because it's an item whic... Sep 24 2006, 06:28 AM Dr Sturm It's not valid, because it's random if you... Sep 24 2006, 06:42 AM ChefMKT
How is it not valid? The item can be obtained wit... Sep 24 2006, 07:09 AM
Dr Sturm Well, I don't find it fun, so I'll answer ... Sep 24 2006, 07:55 AM |
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