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Yuka
post Aug 5 2006, 12:58 AM
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I'm not too fond of using Durant for some bizarre reason, but does he become essential later in the game?


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post Sep 23 2006, 02:13 AM
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Then I wouldn't bother stealing that item, or breaking it for that matter.

Because you want the enemy to have as high stats as possible, right?
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But you get to use Milanor beginning at BF01, therefore it's actually quite hard to not get an untampered TEC stat because of the amount of chances you can get MVP.

There is no guarantee he will get the MVP. Kobun can get the MVP, and starting in BF02 you have another character in every battlefield alongside, or instead of, Milanor.
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But you could always just steal the item for yourself during the battle. This removes the stat bonuses and effects on that enemy unit, and also allows you to use that item later for yourself.
We're discussing a situation where the item is unusable. It does not heal, and it is not equippable.
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That example is not valid as Kylier isn't a permanent unit, I'm talking about the units which can actually level up. She's always popping in and out. Also, she has fixed stats during the battlefield. Her ability to fly is both good and bad depending on the situation.
How is it not valid? Since when were we talking about only permanent units? I thought we were talking about units with the same weapon types.
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I didn't pick up that item in BF35, what was it anyway? However, because of big units having only 3 instead of the 6 during skirmishes, if you get criticaled, it's pretty much over.
I didn't pick up the item either, but, anyways. Remember, that even with the army quantity, it doesn't make a huge difference when you're still a bigger type of unit.

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What I'm trying to say is, having two decently levelled spear users is pointless, but that's just the way I play it.
And I'm trying to dispell the idea.
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At level 20 though, that'd mean you'd have picked up quite a few MVPs which would boost those below average stats significantly,
I thought Milanor got all the MVPs. :X
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Even though they can't counter, that also applies to the enemy on the Hunter / Assassin's initiating attack which is very, very advantageous.
MKT, I'm showing how the Hunter's and Assassin's are NOT overpowered. For every huge advantage they have, they have an equally disadvantageous trait.

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I can move my bow units out of Yggdra's union formation range to prevent them from being on the receiving end of an initiating attack.
Or to cause them to get raped solo, no Yggdra helping out.

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Well, the item that will allow them to get Overkill only lasts a few maps. And I think there's only one, as opposed to the other elements.
Although, you do bring up an interesting point, after getting your own Fencer, there's only one story Fencer, and very few generics. But, wait. After you BF07, there's only two enemy Undines (the only enemies resistant to Ice).


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Sauce XIV   A Question about Durant   Aug 5 2006, 12:58 AM
Dr Sturm   Potentially. He can class change.   Aug 5 2006, 01:43 AM
Rhiannon   He's not really needed. But sometimes you...   Aug 5 2006, 03:53 AM
Anonoymous BBS   He's a Good unit in my experience. I could ta...   Sep 21 2006, 02:48 PM
ChefMKT   Use all units possible? Are you insane?! If yo...   Sep 22 2006, 04:00 AM
Dr Sturm   It's really not that hard to use most units, M...   Sep 22 2006, 04:05 AM
ChefMKT   I never said that it was hard using most units, I ...   Sep 22 2006, 04:40 AM
Dr Sturm   First, fight people you're weak against. That...   Sep 22 2006, 04:54 AM
ChefMKT   1) Really? I didn't know that! D: 2) Fair...   Sep 22 2006, 05:23 AM
Dr Sturm   How could you not...? You fought, and beat, Gulca...   Sep 22 2006, 05:55 AM
ChefMKT   I didn't know it quadrupled against units you...   Sep 22 2006, 06:37 AM
Dr Sturm   This is assuming two enemy parties each with the m...   Sep 22 2006, 06:47 AM
Anonoymous BBS   It isn't that bad to use all your units, even ...   Sep 22 2006, 02:11 PM
ChefMKT   Yes, but this game involves a lot of luck (Damn cr...   Sep 22 2006, 10:55 PM
Anonoymous BBS   The enemy always finds a way to screw the player o...   Sep 22 2006, 11:09 PM
Dr Sturm   How? Yggdra may be a sword unit, but only Fencers ...   Sep 22 2006, 11:15 PM
Dr Sturm   And it's not Ressurection, it's Reincarnat...   Sep 22 2006, 11:15 PM
ChefMKT   Item Break is useless though because you could alw...   Sep 22 2006, 11:23 PM
Dr Sturm   Except it's not useless. Just because you can ...   Sep 22 2006, 11:46 PM
ChefMKT   Then I wouldn't bother stealing that item, or...   Sep 23 2006, 01:51 AM
ChefMKT   Unless there's an item which is not equippabl...   Sep 23 2006, 02:40 AM
Dr Sturm   I'm all but certain there is, but I thought w...   Sep 23 2006, 03:21 AM
ChefMKT   I wasn't arguing mostly in theory. >.> ...   Sep 23 2006, 03:56 AM
Sauce XIV   I wasn't even aware my topic spawned such an i...   Sep 23 2006, 03:58 AM
Dr Sturm   No it's not.Mayhap for you.Yet you move the Hu...   Sep 23 2006, 04:35 AM
ChefMKT   Yes it is. I'm pretty sure Rhia had Milanor...   Sep 23 2006, 04:56 AM
Dr Sturm   Prove it. Rhea r a jrek So the enemy can move nex...   Sep 23 2006, 05:14 AM
ChefMKT   Item Break: Breaks the item the unit is holding i...   Sep 23 2006, 05:50 AM
Dr Sturm   As I said, what about the items that are useless?...   Sep 23 2006, 06:42 AM
ChefMKT   If the items are useless, then at least steal it ...   Sep 23 2006, 07:37 AM
Dr Sturm   Of course that's what I mean. Useless for you,...   Sep 23 2006, 08:28 AM
ChefMKT   Bad example. Her A.Shield prevents the effects of...   Sep 23 2006, 09:51 AM
Dr Sturm   Yes, bad example, but you're wrong. At least, ...   Sep 23 2006, 05:22 PM
Rhiannon   YOU'RE MORE WRONG THAN CHEF IS BECAUSE CHEF ...   Sep 23 2006, 06:51 PM
Dr Sturm   No, I mean about the A.Shield blocking skills. A.S...   Sep 23 2006, 08:13 PM
Rhiannon   Nobody cares about the technicalities. It's a ...   Sep 23 2006, 09:50 PM
Dr Sturm   It doesn't matter if it's a bad example, i...   Sep 23 2006, 09:54 PM
ChefMKT   I thought we were comparing Item Break's use,...   Sep 23 2006, 11:11 PM
Dr Sturm   You conveniently ignored my most recent message ab...   Sep 23 2006, 11:39 PM
ChefMKT   Yes, it was an example where an item is useful to...   Sep 24 2006, 12:14 AM
Dr Sturm   I never said Item Break is better than Steal... O...   Sep 24 2006, 12:28 AM
ChefMKT   Okay then, you said Item Break is not useless but...   Sep 24 2006, 01:04 AM
Dr Sturm   It is. When Steal cannot be used. But I thought ...   Sep 24 2006, 01:23 AM
Raijinili   If you can't provide an in-game example where ...   Sep 24 2006, 01:45 AM
ChefMKT   So destroying a useful item is better than pickin...   Sep 24 2006, 01:48 AM
Dr Sturm   Situations when Steal cannot be used but Item Brea...   Sep 24 2006, 01:48 AM
Dr Sturm   Do you have the LUK to pick it up? Circumstances....   Sep 24 2006, 02:06 AM
ChefMKT   There's always items which give guranteed ite...   Sep 24 2006, 03:03 AM
Dr Sturm   Which you probably have to steal or have LUK to ...   Sep 24 2006, 03:34 AM
ChefMKT   You can find the 4-leaf clover on the ground. I...   Sep 24 2006, 04:05 AM
Dr Sturm   Isn't it random if you get it?BLOOD CLAW GENOC...   Sep 24 2006, 04:47 AM
ChefMKT   Yes, but it's still an example of an item whi...   Sep 24 2006, 05:21 AM
Dr Sturm   And you said I made a bad example.Except the Hunt...   Sep 24 2006, 05:57 AM
ChefMKT   My example is valid because it's an item whic...   Sep 24 2006, 06:28 AM
Dr Sturm   It's not valid, because it's random if you...   Sep 24 2006, 06:42 AM
ChefMKT   How is it not valid? The item can be obtained wit...   Sep 24 2006, 07:09 AM
Dr Sturm   Well, I don't find it fun, so I'll answer ...   Sep 24 2006, 07:55 AM


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