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Raijinili
post Jun 1 2006, 09:09 AM
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Try to wrap your mind around this:
You have a stick and a rock. You hit the rock with the stick, and you hear a sound. You hit it again and again, and you hear a sound every time.

1. You hit it one last time, and you don't hear a sound. You find out that you're deaf for some reason. It doesn't matter what reason, but it's important to note that there is a reason.

(Now this is where it gets tricky.)

2. You hit it one last time, and you don't hear a sound. Yet NOTHING HAS CHANGED to affect whether or not you can hear a sound. There is no cause to this lack of effect.

What do you think about that? If, one day, you find out that there are effects that have no causes?

(Now we go into the philosophy of David Hume.)

Science relies on a single premise: What happens before will happen again. If it doesn't happen again, there is a reason for it not to happen again. If you hit the rock, you will hear a sound unless something changes.

But, according to Hume, you can't prove this basic premise through either reason or evidence (science). I forget why not reason, but to prove it through science is to use science to prove that you can trust science. It's circular reasoning.


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Greifer
post Jun 2 2006, 12:32 AM
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Rai...the idea is still based on cause and effect. The only difference is that this effect did not seem to have a cause, thus inducing confusion and curiousity.

A problem like this is someting you could wrack your brain over forever, it might even drive you to the point of borderline insanity or even farther. Now if you let it get that far, then you are either a hypothetical genius or your just a moron.

If you don't hear a sound when you strike the rock with the stick, then maybe you aren't striking it with force enough to produce audible sound(I presume the rock is being struck hard enough, is it not?) You say nothing changed, you think you are deaf? If you can still hear other noises than the probable sound of the rock being struck, then you are not deaf.

Perhaps the rock isn't there and you are hallcinating. Or maybe it's the stick that isn't really there. Or possibly you are just dreaming a pointless dream.

Circular reasoning is exactly what it says- reasoning that takes you in circles. This question is made to make you think logically, not to answered.


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