The Archangel Issue, Spoilers for the entirety of Riviera. Options

[Dr Strum]

We all know about the fantastic naked Archangel which is really easy to kill and resides in a lonely Tetythian Cathedral.
The Archangel who was expelled from Asgard, yet somehow retains her wings, and somehow became an Accursed.
The problems I see with this, is that, according to a few trigger scenes before the fight, you find out that Angels, upon exile from Asgard, have their wings removed. Another problem, is that the Accursed are, according to Ursula, all the children of the Demon God (whom, from dialogue in chapter eight, I presume to be Hades) who was sealed in Riviera "long ago."
Unless "children" is used figuratively to denominate the Accursed as the "Demon God's" servants, that implies that they are his offspring, or his creations at the very least. This obviously shows the hole in the Archangel/Accursed's backstory. The only possibility, is that the Archangel is from the time before the Ragnarok, when the Gods were still around, but for this to work, the "Demon God" must have been a normal God of Asgard himself, perhaps outcast after some perfidious act (perhaps even causing the Ragnarok in it or by path of it). But that's overly complicated and doesn't quite fit with the general theme or caste of Riviera, and doesn't explain the retention of her wings, nor the ability to summon demons because that would imply that she is technically a normal Angel.



... So what are all of your thoughts?

[Leyviur]

Maybe she had her wings ripped off when she was banished and got new wings from the demon god by promising eternal servitude to him.

Or it has something to do with tentacle rape.

[Dr Strum]

Perhaps.
Or Sting's writers are bad.
Or we got a less-than-perfect translation.

[Angelic Chao§]

"children" could be figurative like you said.

[P.P.A.]

I think it was like that: Archangel, or whatever her name was before she became an accursed, was banned from Asgard because of double posting or something like that and walked around aimlessy in Utgard. She met this Demon God and he said something like "You´re powerful, come join me and we´ll rule over both Asgard and Utgard." He "adopted" Archangel giving her more powers and wings and that whole "children" thing is just symbolic.

[Dr Strum]

But he was sealed in Utgard.
How could she have met him sealed away?

[P.P.A.]

I think it happened during or before Ragnarok. At that time, this Demon God was not sealed away yet, was he?

[Dr Strum]

The dialogue said "long ago" implying that it was before the Ragnarok, else they would have simply said during the Ragnarok.
But if you intend to go along that route (the Archangel being thousands of years old), then a similar problem comes up; having purged Utgard of demons and leaving it in the hands of the sprites, why would they leave the Arch Angel, a servant of their enemy, to reside there?

[P.P.A.]

Somewhere in the game it says that Hector told Malice to summon the Accursed.
I think the Accursed (including Archangel) were sealed away after Ragnarok and were then reactivated by Malice and Hector.

[Malice no Kokushi]

[Ebe]

First off, "Angel" and "Grim Angel" are slightly different.

Angels appear to be divine beings who are generally supposed to serve the Supreme God (You can think of it as the Christian God, Brahma, Zurva, Allah, or any other absolutes you happen to like). They exist as concepts (hence the Dark Progenitors are Angels of Fear, most likely negative emotions in general) and met out their purposes as such. While Grim Angels are super soldiers created by the gods of Asgard to kill Hades' demon soldiers. Hence, Archangel lost her position when she encouraged people to worship her as opposed to the Absolute. She was not, however, some magical person with wings that took orders from Hector. Rather she is the same species as the other accursed, simply an offshoot of it, like how humanity has different races.

[Raijinili]

. Another problem, is that the Accursed are, according to Ursula, all the children of the Demon God (whom, from dialogue in chapter eight, I presume to be Hades) who was sealed in Riviera "long ago."

I don't remember this.

[Dr Strum]

Because you're an idiot. She says it after Isher is defeated.

[Raijinili]

If that's true, it would be in the dialogue, wouldn't it?

[Dr Strum]

It is.

Someone has awakened the Accursed, the children of
the Demon God who was sealed away here long ago.
They have the ability to summon demons.
I fear the demons have returned to reclaim Riviera.