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| Raijinili |
 Jun 5 2006, 05:27 PM
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Show why the statement does not prove what it's trying to prove.
1. "Don't listen to him. He's just a troll." ~~~  |
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| Greifer |
Jun 5 2006, 05:33 PM
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 Baby Chocobo Cuteness Group: Arcs Posts: 420 Joined: 7-April 06 From: Underground Member No.: 105 |
Because it makes it seem like trolls are useless, so of course, you'll probably end up talking to the troll anyway.
~~~ I once saw Phoenix Wright cosplay at JACON...
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| Raijinili |
Jun 5 2006, 06:02 PM
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Lieutenant Group: Gods Posts: 2539 Joined: 25-December 05 Member No.: 16 |
That's... completely wrong.
Someone's trying to say, "He's a troll, therefore he's wrong." This post has been edited by Raijinili: Jun 5 2006, 06:03 PM ~~~ |
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| Greifer |
Jun 5 2006, 07:37 PM
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Baby Chocobo Cuteness Group: Arcs Posts: 420 Joined: 7-April 06 From: Underground Member No.: 105 |
So is this person claiming that the whole troll race is wrong?
~~~ I once saw Phoenix Wright cosplay at JACON...
I thought my eyes would shrivel up. |
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| Yourself |
Jun 5 2006, 10:23 PM
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 Twilight Gospel Group: Arcs Posts: 245 Joined: 27-December 05 From: The Closet Member No.: 25 |
Do you like doing this Rai?
But if you are acknowledging trolls, you are somehow breaking that statement. Do whatever. ~~~ How would you like your "keen" eye to watch my "sure" foot kick your "smart" ass? - Xaldin, KH2 parody
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| Rhiannon |
Jun 5 2006, 11:32 PM
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 I'm really moved by the chicken bone Group: Gods Posts: 2033 Joined: 23-December 05 From: Minnesotablarg Member No.: 4 |
That guy loses because he doesn't explain why that other guy is a troll. That jerk.
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| lightningdude |
Jun 6 2006, 05:32 AM
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Not-so-peculiarly absent Group: Arcs Posts: 229 Joined: 2-March 06 From: Illinois Member No.: 79 |
Stereotypes are never completely right about every member of the group that you are judging.
~~~ These broken hearts are left with scars
Because of your lies And all this time, it feels like I'm Chasing shadows at midnight. --Pillar |
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| Swiyth |
Jun 6 2006, 05:40 AM
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 Vlayghn el Deistra Group: Arcs Posts: 223 Joined: 23-December 05 Member No.: 2 |
there is no proof. without valid evidence, there's no proof if what he says is wrong.
~~~ <SIENNA> Dude
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| Raijinili |
Jun 6 2006, 11:52 PM
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Lieutenant Group: Gods Posts: 2539 Joined: 25-December 05 Member No.: 16 |
The correct answer is:
Even if he's a troll, it doesn't make him wrong. It doesn't matter whether or not he's a troll. It's called argumentum ad hominem. Argument to the man. May come in the form of insults, attacks on credibility. Basically, the person can't be trusted to be right. It's a logical fallacy because it doesn't prove anything about the argument, and only claims something about the man behind the argument. 2. Person is arguing that abortion should be legalized: "Either you believe in legalizing abortion, or you're against helping victims of rape." There are at least three points used there that don't prove his argument. And dammit, don't make this an argument about abortion, like you made that other topic a topic about philosophy. I don't even have a stance on abortion. ~~~ |
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| Irysa |
Jun 7 2006, 01:29 AM
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 Towards some blank infinity Group: Knights Posts: 1470 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Behind You Member No.: 65 |
I'm assuming this again is to make everyone show up as the idiots we all are and to make yourself feel better about our lack of Philisophical ability?
~~~ [13:27:43] [Sabator] peter would be the worst batman ever though. "turn on the bat-signal" "right!" *turns on huge foglight, beams an image of striped pantsu into the sky*
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| Rhiannon |
Jun 7 2006, 02:06 AM
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I'm really moved by the chicken bone Group: Gods Posts: 2033 Joined: 23-December 05 From: Minnesotablarg Member No.: 4 |
But it doesn't have anything to do with phiolosophy. That's why it's called "LOGIC topic".
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| Irysa |
Jun 7 2006, 02:11 AM
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Towards some blank infinity Group: Knights Posts: 1470 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Behind You Member No.: 65 |
...I see my deliberate attempts at idiocy are obviously so stupid they are misinterpreted even by smart people...
~~~ [13:27:43] [Sabator] peter would be the worst batman ever though. "turn on the bat-signal" "right!" *turns on huge foglight, beams an image of striped pantsu into the sky*
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| Swiyth |
Jun 7 2006, 04:12 AM
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Vlayghn el Deistra Group: Arcs Posts: 223 Joined: 23-December 05 Member No.: 2 |
hmm. he is saying that as long as he doesn't legalize abortion, then he's against helping rape victims. hmm.......oh yeah, Chaos, this has nothing to do with Rai showing us we're idiots or to make him feel better. it's just so we get smarter. learning to read between the lines. and his lines are very fine.... dang, what the hell...... okay, so, like what Rai said, ARGENTUM AD HOMINEM, this guy has no real proof that the person he's bashing is against victims of rape. he's just saying it because he will not agree to the person's point of view of legalizing abortion. right or wrong? ~~~ <SIENNA> Dude
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| Raijinili |
Jun 7 2006, 06:14 AM
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Lieutenant Group: Gods Posts: 2539 Joined: 25-December 05 Member No.: 16 |
There's more to it than that. But it's not ad hominem because he's not attacking the person's credibility directly. Ad hominem usually involves past activity.
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| lightningdude |
Jun 7 2006, 08:10 AM
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Not-so-peculiarly absent Group: Arcs Posts: 229 Joined: 2-March 06 From: Illinois Member No.: 79 |
1. Victims of rape aren't the only ones who get abortions.
2. He is saying that there aren't any reasons to be against abortion other than being cruel and heartless. This is untrue because I could personally think of a couple of reasons that abortion shouldn't be legalized. (but this isn't a debate so I won't elaborate) 3. He doesn't allow for fence riders, people like Rai who don't have a stance on abortion. I'm not meaning that as a stab at Rai either, just using him as an example. Besides, that one was kinda thrown out there. This post has been edited by lightningdude: Jun 7 2006, 08:11 AM ~~~ These broken hearts are left with scars
Because of your lies And all this time, it feels like I'm Chasing shadows at midnight. --Pillar |
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