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Irysa
post Oct 10 2008, 03:25 AM
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BLUBLUBLU SWORD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtqkeFsuqk0

Jesus christ.

On the plus side, Crush 40 are back. Fuck yeah.

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post Oct 10 2008, 10:39 AM
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Fuck Crush 40 and their rocks songs, electric guitars and manly voices.
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post Oct 10 2008, 11:44 AM
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BLASPHEMY! Crush 40 rocks!

Altohugh I do like the old games, I still love the Sonic Adventure series. Sonic Heroes was iffy, but the Genisis, Saturn, and Dreamcast games definitely qualify as classics. This INCLUDES SA2. Sonic's downfall started in Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic Rush, and Sonic Riders, as far as I'm concerned. Sure the gameplay for most of Sonic's games are great, but since they're so playable, people think it's okay to forget the STORY AND CHARACTERS.

There are three explanations for this:

1. Yuji Naka stopped producing.
2. Sonic Team has gotten lazy.
3. Both Yuji Naka and Sonic Team have been abducted by space Mexicans and were replaced by evil clones. Their original selves were then destroyed because they knew too much.


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post Oct 10 2008, 12:56 PM
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Sonic started going down in the 5th generation, but Adventure 1 was still fun. 2's first 3 levels or so for Sonic are fucking awesome, and then the rest of the game blows.


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post Oct 10 2008, 01:44 PM
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hut up about Yuju Naka. he hated Sonic and while I had to admit he was a fantastic coder he never really had a clue what the series was about.

And imo Sonic Adventure 2 was good or at least decent. It just didn't feel like a Sonic game any more.
SA1 was pretty crappy though, While I only played the GC version which I assume to be worse. The real world setting was boring, 2/3 of the music sucked (the other 1/3 was some of the best in the series though), the game was even glitchier than S06 (or about on par) and the controls were even worse. Still, it did have some highlights. The story wasn't bad (even though unnecessary in the first point)(Gamma's story standing out especially though) and playing as Tails or Gamma was a lot of fun. Sonic and Knuckles less so but still bearable and Amy and Big just sucked.

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post Oct 10 2008, 03:38 PM
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What would make you people happy, then? A game where Sonic runs past some hills, industrial sites, ancient ruins, casinos, and mountains, while attacking a large mustachioed man for no apparent reason?


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post Oct 10 2008, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(Irysa @ Oct 10 2008, 08:56 AM) *

Sonic started going down in the 5th generation, but Adventure 1 was still fun. 2's first 3 levels or so for Sonic are fucking awesome, and then the rest of the game blows.

Yeah. The other ones did suck, especially the last levels, like Final Rush and Meteor Herd. WTF? Talk about way too complicated. The only stages I really liked were City Escape, Metal Harbor, Green Hill Zone, and Dry Lagoon.

QUOTE(P.P.A. @ Oct 10 2008, 09:44 AM) *

The real world setting was boring,

Agreed. Green Hill Zone was AWESOME (they thought of everything!), but that's about all. Even though the stages I just mentioned were cool, I would have much preferred the older style of Sonic's zones. The Marble Garden, Green Hill, Angel Island, HydroCity, and Hilltop zones were all amazing. I would have loved seeing them in a 3-D Sonic game.


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post Oct 10 2008, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(Walrus @ Oct 10 2008, 05:38 PM) *

What would make you people happy, then? A game where Sonic runs past some hills, industrial sites, ancient ruins, casinos, and mountains, while attacking a large mustachioed man for no apparent reason?

A game where Sonic runs through stages progressively more influenced by human presence to fight a large moustachioed man because of his goal to eradicate life and replace all sentient beings with robots while covering the world in metal.
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QUOTE(Neon_the_Chao @ Oct 10 2008, 05:40 PM) *

Agreed. Green Hill Zone was AWESOME (they thought of everything!), but that's about all. Even though the stages I just mentioned were cool, I would have much preferred the older style of Sonic's zones. The Marble Garden, Green Hill, Angel Island, HydroCity, and Hilltop zones were all amazing. I would have loved seeing them in a 3-D Sonic game.

Aside from GHZ those are all still pretty tame heh. I was rather thinking Sonic CD's and Knuckles Chaotix stages with their unrivalled surreality and unique style. But still, yeah.
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QUOTE(P.P.A. @ Oct 10 2008, 12:50 PM) *

Aside from GHZ those are all still pretty tame heh. I was rather thinking Sonic CD's and Knuckles Chaotix stages with their unrivalled surreality and unique style. But still, yeah.


Oh, I forgot about those! Definitely them, too.


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post Oct 10 2008, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(P.P.A. @ Oct 10 2008, 12:50 PM) *

A game where Sonic runs through stages progressively more influenced by human presence to fight a large moustachioed man because of his goal to eradicate life and replace all sentient beings with robots while covering the world in metal.
Gameplay specifications left out for now.


This doesn't fit well for a lot of the older Sonic games. S2 and S&K come to mind.


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post Oct 10 2008, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(Yuka @ Oct 10 2008, 11:44 PM) *


This doesn't fit well for a lot of the older Sonic games. S2 and S&K come to mind.

That (amongst a few other things) is the reason I dislike Sonic 2 and S3&K and only regard Sonic 1 (if you tke the beta level order from the level select screen) and Sonic CD as the only "true" Sonic games. And Naoto Oshima as the most important members of old Sonic Team. (S2 and S3&K were made by STI, with only about one half of Sonic Team being involved. The other half stayed in Japan and made Sonic CD.)

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post Oct 10 2008, 11:01 PM
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Well, they're Sonic games so you can't just label them as "false."


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post Oct 11 2008, 01:52 AM
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You can when you're German. PPA's such a Deutsch >:(


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post Oct 11 2008, 06:45 AM
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i c wut u did thar


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