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Yuka
post Jan 12 2008, 05:51 AM
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Of course, ignore the points you can't argue.


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post Jan 12 2008, 06:00 AM
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QUOTE(Yuka @ Jan 12 2008, 05:51 AM) *

Of course, ignore the points you can't argue.


Yeah, well... I've made my case. Ours is a tragic world, and in the end there is nothing to reduce the enmity between our PoVs. So be it.

I hardly regard your criticism as just. My instincts tell me the Nessiah viewpoint cannot be substantiated as easily as can the Ishiene perspective.

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post Jan 12 2008, 06:02 AM
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And completely ignore the Luciana mentioning, as well as the incorrect number of battlefields.

I know you haven't done anything about either of those, I have the page open in a separate tab.

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post Jan 12 2008, 06:12 AM
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Well I didn't make that part of it, only the timeline and the character profiles. I've left it to the person who started the exhaustive analysis to complete it.

If you want to edit it, be my guest.
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post Jan 12 2008, 06:17 AM
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In the timeline it states Aegina invaded the Holy Land and attacked Yggdra in BF34. That is incorrect in that Luciana did it. If you did the timeline, why did you put something inaccurate?


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post Jan 12 2008, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE(Yuka @ Jan 12 2008, 06:17 AM) *

In the timeline it states Aegina invaded the Holy Land and attacked Yggdra in BF34. That is incorrect in that Luciana did it. If you did the timeline, why did you put something inaccurate?


I know that, and that's what I put. Brongaa must have changed it.

I appreciate his proofreading, but he has such confidence in his own facts that he will never admit he's wrong that I can see.

Also, Brongaa insists that Juvelon's sect is called Meriant; I recall numerous references to "the Juvelon sect."

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post Jan 12 2008, 06:33 AM
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So reverse-edit it and tell Brongaa that he's an idiot if he's trying to edit out spoilers.

I recall the whole desert part shoving the name of Meriant into your head.

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post Jan 12 2008, 06:35 AM
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OK, and what do I do when he reverses it again?
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post Jan 12 2008, 06:36 AM
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He won't if he knows he's not supposed to be editing out spoilers. I'm 85% certain of that.


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post Jan 12 2008, 06:49 AM
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It's clear from the script: the entire religion is called Meria.

Milanor: How soon can we get into the Holy Land?
Joachim: Not before we get the Miracle Tiara for the coronation.
Gordon: But, your Eminence... That is in St. Meriata... It's currently under
control by the Juvelon sect.
Joachim: Indeed, but the Coronation cannot proceed without it.
Durant: Have no fear, your Eminence. We shall escort you.
Joachim: Good.
Gordon: The Juvelon sect has been a problem... According to them, only they, the
chosen few, can be saved. They don't hesitate to persecute other sects.
Milanor: So it's a religious war? How stupid. ( I concur, by the way. )

Gordon: The Juvelon warriors are know as the Meriants. They're similar to us in
some ways, but much more violent.


So judging from that, the warriors are Meriants and the sect is Juvelon.

Look here:


Joachim: That I am. The 47th Pope of Meria, Joachim Lia Blaucent. Judging by
your White Phoenix crest, you must be...


So Meria is the religion, Blaucent is the last name of the pope. (it may be something else, but how could we be sure?)


Royal Scout: There's a battle going on in the city up ahead!
Durant: Who is fighting?
Royal Scout: It seems to be the Joachim sect against the Juvelon sect.

( Note: Joachim, as far as I know, actually exists (has something to do with
Catholic/Orthodox religion), but Juvelon does not exist besides in this game. )

Yggdra: Sectarian conflict...? I've never heard of this Juvelon order. Is it
new?
Durant: Yes. The orthodox sect of Meria is Joachim's... While the Juvelon sect
is more elitist and dogmatic.
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post Jan 12 2008, 06:52 AM
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Then go ahead and fix that too. Mention the script of the game if Brongaa wants to reverse it.

Joachim Mizrahi!

I ran a quick Wikipedia search, Joachim is a saint in Anglican, Roman Catholic, and Orthodox factions. Supposedly, he's the father of Mary.

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post Jan 12 2008, 06:57 AM
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That was a quote directly from Shadowchaser_91's transcription in his FAQ, and was his observation. (just for the record)
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post Jan 12 2008, 06:58 AM
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Oh. Well, we actually don't have our own script to reference here at LCN (aside from the one Feral made, but that one is horribly organized), so I can't check the Meria/Meriant thing.

Actually, we have a Rai, so we may check the code in the game sometime to confirm it.

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post Jan 12 2008, 07:40 AM
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By thinking of nothing save her own people, her social bonds are completely ethnocentric. She is in substance a racist.
This is the most idiotic thing I've seen all week. Her people are in immediate danger of dying out, and you think that she should worry about a social life?

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Fact without structure is useless; for that matter, it may not exist. Fact must be organized around a unifying principle, or at best, it is incomplete. Intuition can determine which unifying principle is most likely given a choice between principles. (in Emelone's case, the Nessiah argument vs the Ishiene argument.)
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