Suzu Fujibayashi
Mar 16 2007, 08:16 PM
As boredom seems to rule 99% of my life and I get randomly inspired to do things... Anyone believe writing a fanfiction following the YU storyline from start to finish is a good idea? Or just terribly awful and I should be shot/killed? The issues I've thought of are:
1. How big are the armies? o.o Is each unit REALLY only 6/3 units? Or is there more...?
2. Roswell or Rosary!? D: I'd obviously choose Rosary, but then wouldn't I tick off the Roswell fans? Maybe I'll pull a Feral and have them both live...
3. Cards anyone?
Megaolix
Mar 16 2007, 10:11 PM
First, I think it's called a novelization. As long as you do good, you won't get shot.
Now, for the questions...
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1. Feel free to make them bigger.
2. Don't pull a Feral. One of them has to go. Besides, I don't think Feral's version of letting them is live is good enough.
3. No. Feel free to make them uses skills, but forget the cards.
ChefMKT
Mar 16 2007, 10:12 PM
1. It depends which one is more appropriate, but generally you'd want sizable armies on both sides. You don't want this ending up like Fire Emblem where one person can take out an entire army.
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2. If you decide to let them both live, what would happen during the coronation where Yggdra has to fight the one that died?
If you are trying to do a novelisation of the story, try not to change the story around too much.
3. I wouldn't bring in the ACTUAL card system, but the card skills themselves would be fine.
Another Necromancer
Mar 18 2007, 12:08 AM
1. I'd make them bigger overall. Though, the way I interpreted what the game said, when the royal army restocks their 'supplies' I gathered this to include mercenaries or converted soldiers to refill gaps left during the previous battlefields. Perhaps that could work?
2. Let one of them die - if you're going to flesh out the story a bit more, this could put Yggdra through an interesting guilt trip, whoever it is.
3. Skills, yes, and since Yggdra mentions a 'hidden power' within the cards on the first battlefield, you could make it that the army has to have the physical card before they can use the skill. But for realism, drop the turn-based thing.
Suzu Fujibayashi
Mar 18 2007, 12:22 AM
Hmmm yes, goood, goood feedback yes...
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2. I forgot all about that encounter there. XD
Guess Roswell's pushin' up daisys.
I'll tinker with this for a while, it's nothing easy since well... I get horribly picky about my own writing and stuff. I'll probably just practice on normal fanfics for a bit, brush up my writing skills, etc. etc.
Megaolix
Mar 18 2007, 01:56 AM
If you need some help, don't hesitate to ask. Everyone who played the game know how long it is and how long this will take to write.
Suzu Fujibayashi
Mar 18 2007, 02:37 AM
I probably will eventually. And gosh, yeah it'll be a while I bet depending on how detailed I make each BF... XD
And sheesh. Whats so spoilery about saying that? <_< It's not like I specifically said
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He died. So picky.
Feral Phoenix
Mar 19 2007, 02:23 PM
In my version of that BF, Yggdra had to face the leaders of First and Second Cavalry (you know, the knights she mentions in the beginning who got killed trying to save her?). :< Stop being mean to Roswell! *hits*
I'm thinking of doing a collection of (VERY) short drabbles, for all the tiny scenes in my head too short for oneshots. Including Yggdra and Gulcasa pirating Sweetberries from their hapless fellows, all the ladies behind closed doors, and SOMEONE is most certainly not a morning person.
Suzu Fujibayashi
Mar 20 2007, 02:25 AM
I was actually writing the beginning to the first BF and forgot about those knights and had to re-do it completely. XD I just made up a 'Royal Guard' for my little OC to be from... :<
*Hit* ;-; But...
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He has to die or I can't have my RosaryxYggdra. D:
That sounds like a nice idea, I'd be nice to see how you could make little things like that. I was somewhat thinking of doing some 'prequal' things of some characters, like Elena perhaps. But that's so I can write some ElenaxZilva... :<
Megaolix
Mar 20 2007, 11:19 AM
Hmmm...
A novelization shouldn't really have any pairings unless the game put them together in the game's story. Put hints if you want, but I don't really suggest making pairings.
Feral Phoenix
Mar 20 2007, 12:19 PM
That's the whole point in doing a post-story thing. So everyone can fall for each other and stuff. XD
Unless you're going to write what happens in between the battles (there isn't much space between them anyway, but there has to be character interaction there...)
Dr Strum
Mar 20 2007, 01:23 PM
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That's the whole point in doing a post-story thing.
Pay some damn attention, he's writing up the whole game, not a "post-story thing."
Feral Phoenix
Mar 20 2007, 02:21 PM
Suzu is a girl, Sturm.
Dr Strum
Mar 20 2007, 02:36 PM
Not without proof.
Feral Phoenix
Mar 20 2007, 05:10 PM
It's kind of out there to imply that she's a guy claiming to be a girl while holding fantasies of changing his sex. Y'know...?
Suzu Fujibayashi
Mar 20 2007, 09:35 PM
*Choose to ignore Sturm* I've learned not to try and argue with him. I'll never win. <_<
@Mega: Epilogues yo. But I could totally hint at developing relationships during the 'series'. Of course I would mention this is my own fan-made novelization and not a copy-paste of the series. Because that'd be... Hard. Or rather, boring. Not a lot to write about other then a few minutes of talking followed by potetially hour long battles.
And I was thinking of doing a post-story for now or something, less constraining somewhat then setting it during the story proper.
Feral Phoenix
Mar 22 2007, 12:20 PM
Doing post-story stuff is great. |D Especially for those too lazy to copy out all the major scripts while playing the game. Ancardia was enough, believe me. |D *is a total nerd*
Most of the things I write start at some point in the storyline and AU from it, take place afterwards, or are completely AU. I do oneshots that take place during the story, though. :< I learned my lesson long ago that novelizations are a huuuge pain to write. And you always end up wanting to do editorials.
Suzu Fujibayashi
Mar 23 2007, 04:17 AM
Yeah all that script will be so boring to do in a novelization. D:
I'll have to write down all the script... ;-;
I tried to do an Elena x Zilva oneshot, but it's hard to see either of them being romantic. Elena's kind of shy and Zilva is so... emotionless. It's hard. D:
But I found Yggdra x Rosary so... easy... o_o
Maybe I'll do Nietzsche x Pamela. Hmmmm.
Feral Phoenix
Mar 23 2007, 12:14 PM
Two words that might help: Preferential treatment. :D
Because Elena is Zilva's favorite student, right? And Elena's already obsessed with her teacher, right? And even after they start fighting Zilva's always nice to her, right? And... jeez, I better shut up.
But yes, Elena's shyness is a problem with writing anything romantic. Fluff is less of a problem. Chapter 6 of Stupid Cupid is mostly going to be devoted to her trying to give Zilva her Valentine's Day chocolate. Or rather, trying to get up the courage. |D *horrible mean author*
Dr Strum
Mar 23 2007, 01:22 PM
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Because Elena is Zilva's favorite student, right?
Most promising.
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And Elena's already obsessed with her teacher, right?
... No.
Feral Phoenix
Mar 23 2007, 02:16 PM
It all depends on the way you portray things.
Dr Strum
Mar 23 2007, 02:48 PM
Yes; correctly or incorrectly.
Feral Phoenix
Mar 23 2007, 03:01 PM
Meaning "The Sturm Way" and "The Non-Sturm Way"?
Sorry, but not everyone does things the way you think they should be done.
Dr Strum
Mar 23 2007, 03:05 PM
No, canonically and uncreatively.
Suzu Fujibayashi
Mar 23 2007, 09:41 PM
It's better to ignore Sturm Feral, he'll never back down from his own opinion on things. <_<
But you gave me quite the nice idea there Feral... And yay! Finally some Elena x Zliva fluff! |D
Feral Phoenix
Mar 26 2007, 10:31 PM
It's coming in the next chapter of SC. Down girl.
gyrobot
Mar 30 2007, 06:34 AM
You know I am thinking making a fanfic myself (basically, it involves an attempt for Milanor and the guys to spy on the girls during their bath among other things and an hilarious game of spy vs spy occurs between them when one thing leads to another)
Another Necromancer
Mar 30 2007, 08:24 AM
Someone correct me if I'm being a pain, but I think it's bad manners to hijack someone's topic like that, Gyrobot. Making another topic is more polite.
Feral Phoenix
Mar 30 2007, 08:07 PM
I dunno. It's up to Suzu. :D Oh and chapter 6 has been posted, so you now have Zilva/Elena fluff in addition to everyone else's romance.
It's a shame that I started the story before I got into Cruz/Mizer. :< I didn't get to put them in.
Suzu Fujibayashi
Mar 30 2007, 09:19 PM
We don't need a crack shonen-ai pairing tooo Feral. D:
You can't exceed two crack pairings in a fic, it's just wrong! 'Cause uhm... uh... Hmmm.. I said so that's why! ;D
And I noticed one of my reviews fudged up and didn't send completely. ;;
And I don't mind, that would be interesting. Although we only know Yggdra's size |D We dunno about Elena or Rosary really, their clothes get in the way.
Dr Strum
Mar 30 2007, 09:26 PM
Elena is the same size as Nietzsche and Emilia.
Suzu Fujibayashi
Mar 30 2007, 09:38 PM
Alright, alright. I still say that leather plate thingy she wears makes her look more like Yggdra's size. If it wasn't for that 'Small Breastplate' item's requirement...
Still dunno Rosary's. Hard to tell with all that clothing on, and even though you can't judge by the clothing... Riviera taught me just because it looks like there is little under it, doesn't mean there isn't <_<
Dr Strum
Mar 30 2007, 09:42 PM
Well, there's nothing official; the artists are just as confused as you as I've seen her flat and stacked.
Suzu Fujibayashi
Mar 30 2007, 09:48 PM
I haven't seen any art of Rosary, only Yggdra and a few Roswell and stuff.
If we assume they drew her in the same sense as say, Fia and Serene from Riviera, I'd have to assume she's pretty well-built maybe. Likely not as well as Yggdra, despite being two years older...
Megaolix
Mar 30 2007, 11:46 PM
Well, I guess it's up to you...
Anyway, do you think you'll do the fic you talked about? If you need some help, I would love to help write a novelization of Yggdra Union.
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...And if anyone is hijacking the topic here, I think it's Feral.
Suzu Fujibayashi
Mar 31 2007, 03:02 AM
I'm not sure really. A novelization is a lot of work, ya know?
Feral Phoenix
Apr 2 2007, 05:23 PM
OOH OOH I HAVE A FANFIC REQUEST FOR YOU SUZU.
Suzu Fujibayashi
Apr 2 2007, 11:32 PM
You do? What kind? <_<
'Cause if it involves shonen-ai or yaoi, I probably can't do it. <.<;
Feral Phoenix
Apr 3 2007, 12:16 PM
No, nothing like that. It involves Yggdra and Rosary, so I'm sure you can manage.
Request under cut:
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After the war, Yggdra still feels guilty about all the lives she had to take (because she's too nice for her own good), and has been privately angsting about her mistakes. One day while taking flowers to Roswell's grave, she runs into Rosary, who's there for the same reason, and the two of them commiserate.
Feel free to imply yuri. And make the angst serious (which you can do) but their relationship cute (which you can do very well :D), but no snogfests/mad yuri secks like in certain other fics you've written.
You need emo Yggdra practice for your novelization. *nods judiciously* Pretty pwz?
Megaolix
Apr 4 2007, 12:06 AM
Sounds like an interesting idea. I would write some YU fics too if school wasn't overloading me with work.
Besides, I need to see an what an emo Yggdra, like Feral put it, looks like for my "big project"...
Suzu Fujibayashi
Apr 4 2007, 02:47 AM
There was only mad yuri secks in the 2 chapter one silly. |D
But sure I could try it, I've been scribbling up a lot of angsty/emo stuff lately. Kinda creepy, it's almost second nature to me now. *shiver*
So no making out. Got it... *Plots other obviously yuri things to do not related to snogfesting/hot, hot secks* =p
No timeline though, I have my on and off creative days. But I'll upload it to Fanfiction and tell you right away when it's done |D
Feral Phoenix
Apr 4 2007, 12:12 PM
Thank you ^_^;;
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Because even if you off Roswell, you have to treat him otherwise nicely or else his fangirls will lynch you. Seriously. ^_^;;
Suzu Fujibayashi
Apr 5 2007, 02:31 AM
No problem |D
In fact I got all these nice notes in the journal I designated 'Yggdra Union fanfictions' o:
Just have to actually go and type it, have a nice plot and EVERYTHING~!
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Hmmm good point. Speaking of Roswell and Rosary, when I was thinking shorthand for pairings I found out shorthand for Yggdra x Rosary is hard 'cause Roswell and Rosary share 3 letters. D:
So like. Roswell would have to be Rw and Rosary Ra. o:
Feral Phoenix
Apr 5 2007, 12:19 PM
Yes you do. :D Now that people besides us have started writing YU fics and putting them up, it should be fun. :D
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Confusion in the shorthand? Hmmmm... kind of makes me wonder if Roswell/Yggdra would work.
Maybe. :x Dunno though.
I already have enough "crack pairings" as it is, though, what with all the stuff I've been writing... which now includes a onesided shonen-ai angst-fluff oneshot that will go up around Friday...
Suzu Fujibayashi
Apr 6 2007, 01:46 AM
Would you like me to PM you the like, outline or something? <.<
I wanna make sure I don't like overlook something important in your request. :o
No one's ever requested anything from me, so I'm trying to deliver nicely. XD
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I dunno. My Roswell doesn't talk much after we meet. <<;
You are like, the queen of crack pairings for YU. D:
Feral Phoenix
Apr 7 2007, 08:26 PM
Thank you, thank you <3 *bows and feels loved*
Feel free to PM me so we aren't clogging up the topic. |D
Suzu Fujibayashi
Apr 7 2007, 10:54 PM
Chapter 1 of Feral's request is done, it's short but the later chapters will be a LOT longer. (Or at least a good few thousand words longer) It's called 'Whispered Regret'. :3
Need ideas for some longer fics.
FlameSpark
Apr 7 2007, 11:22 PM
How ironic...all I can write is insanely long fanfics (like that one with 12 chapters...omg what a headache...)
The only short one I wrote was one of Riviera, because it wasn't long to begin with, but in others, the good ideas keep coming and they look like they're never going to end...
Anyway, good luck! *thumbs up*
Feral Phoenix
Apr 10 2007, 12:13 PM
@_@~~~ Must get to FF.Net and reeeead it~~~~!!
Damn school server, blocking almost every site I like *hits*
Another Necromancer
Apr 10 2007, 12:21 PM
Suzu, I've got an idea for a longer fic that I've been playing with for a while, but I'm not a terrific writer, so I'll put it up for grabs.
Just to be on the safe side, since it involves Kylier:
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A diary/journal/narration fic, detailing the entire plot from Kylier's point of view, up until her sacrifice, possibly with an epilogue which has Milanor angsting about the aftermath. It'd be interesting to go into more detail as to why she hates Yggdra, ect.
@Feral Phoenix: I don't review everything because I like to offer subject matter as opposed to mindless praise, but I'll give some more general encouragement if you want.
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