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Lacrima Castle _ Knights Game Help _ Wait, wait... What?

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 12 2008, 11:01 PM

So I'm up to like. Scene 6 or something and looking through my items when... I note... It seems a lot said 'on scene 2' and stuff.

Did I already miss a ton of Knights? >.>
All I keep getting at the end of maps are 'NoName' units that I can't even select or anything. That normal for this part of the game?

tl;dr

I R CONFUSED PLZHELP.

Posted by: Dr Sturm Dec 12 2008, 11:09 PM

NoName units are just generic ones placed into your party when you don't have a unit of that class (but have controlled or owned one in the past). As for missing Knights, yes, you did.

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 13 2008, 12:04 AM

Generic units AKA "Feed me to units that don't suck"?

So have I been getting a bunch of NoNames and not having my "Knights Owned" (or whatever that 'stat' is) go up because I haven't been getting the items from the Scenes?

I assume I missed them because I'm too focused on killing stuff instead of breaking objects. Not that I've figured out how you can break some of them since I can't figure out how/if you can move...

Posted by: Rhiannon Dec 13 2008, 12:39 AM

Yup. Every named knight can be recruited on the scene you find them in (unless you don't have their item, of course), and if you miss that chance you miss that particular knight until your next playthrough. Key items are like, always found in objects.

And only Maeria, Lance Knights, and Duelists can move. Their Chaos attack moves them, and it moves the entire "spawn point," so if those particular units won't be able to hit an object, you can still still move them to a place where a different knight will be able to hit whatever you're trying to hit.

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 13 2008, 12:51 AM

Ah dammit. Restart time.

Hmmm yeah I remember Duelists... I had one in a map and she moved herself near some NPC... AND COULDN'T HIT ANYTHING EVER AGAIN. Blargh.

Posted by: Rhiannon Dec 13 2008, 01:04 AM

Yeah, that's why I hate Duelists. :( If something can move it should be able to turn in all four directions.

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 13 2008, 01:39 AM

Yeah seems they can only move in like. 2. Or something. And if you do it wrong they end up facing in a way that makes them USELESS. D:

EDIT:
I'll be past it by the time this is answered but.
CAN YOU HIT THAT ROCK IN SCENE 4!? It's driving me crazy. I bet the item to recruit the Hermit in this level is in that rock or... From an earlier scene perhaps. But no matter how I look at it, you can't hit that rock.

EDIT2:
Up to Scene like... 6 and I get the feeling I'm just missing a lot of people. Was doin' good up to like. Scene 3 or 4. Then I couldn't start figuring out how to hit certain objects... x.x

Posted by: Walrus Dec 13 2008, 10:31 AM

There aren't any objects you can't hit.

Use the wiki if you're having problems.

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 13 2008, 04:06 PM

That wiki is all in japanese right? I suppose with enough trial and error of finding the right page... Then reading Babelfish translations...

Posted by: Archeia Dec 15 2008, 09:44 AM

Something has been bothering me, does anything change if you finish the game in normal, easy or hard?
Like does it affect the storY?

Posted by: Walrus Dec 15 2008, 05:27 PM

The only thing that affects the story is the hidden scene, as far as I know. Rhia and I went through Normal and got two different endings, but she went to it and I didn't.

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 16 2008, 06:20 AM

Up to Scene 9 and thus far haven't missed any Knights (probably some NPC items though) and just wondering here.

Are any of the classes gender exclusive? Just a random thought since I have two female Knights now and I think in Leveling I saw a male Duelist.

And another question that I'll spoil to be safe.

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Posted by: Walrus Dec 16 2008, 01:22 PM

Suzu:

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Also. Warriors Archers and Wizards are only male, LKnights are either, Priestesses Duelists and Hermits are only female.

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 16 2008, 03:58 PM

Hmmm must've been a very manly looking Duelist then.
That or Leveling mode just says "Eeeh... We'll just use random art woot!". Or I'm insane.
Probably a combination of 1 and 3.

Hmmm...

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Posted by: Walrus Dec 16 2008, 05:13 PM

That's Capehorn.

Posted by: Yuka Dec 16 2008, 09:39 PM

Are you sure all Archers are male? I have this Archer that looks very girly.

Posted by: Walrus Dec 16 2008, 11:44 PM

Yes, just like Michelle or whoever(Warrior from early in the game) looks feminine.

Posted by: Yuka Dec 17 2008, 12:30 AM

He looked more soul-dead, not feminine.

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 17 2008, 01:31 AM

And I think his name was just Micheal.

Posted by: Walrus Dec 17 2008, 07:35 AM

He wasn't healing any mics, there were actual sh consonants in his name.

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 23 2008, 06:05 AM

"Reviving" so to not make a new thread but...

Scene 13. The uhm... 'object' in front of the Duelist that looks kinda like grass but no bush.

How the HELL do you open those? I hit it once with a lv4 warrior with a weak axe on a low charge and it still instantly jumped to FRAGILE and I got nothing. Does nothing come out of them on Easy or should I just normal attack the things like 80+ times?

Posted by: Walrus Dec 23 2008, 08:10 PM

If you're talking about the stuff that looks like roots/vines in the ground, they're for Dryads. They like to warp around the field for no reason, and they'll change to whatever element the root things are. Trees.

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 23 2008, 10:45 PM

Oh. They don't drop items?
I've been re-doing the level like a billion times because I can't find a way to not Fragile them >_>

Posted by: Walrus Dec 24 2008, 12:38 AM

No. I meant to include that in the post, but I've been asleep since yesterday...

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 24 2008, 12:55 AM

Sleeping much?
But now I'm mad at myself. I could've finished that scene days ago instead of agonizing over getting them to drop items.

I noticed as I played even though I'm (pretty) sure I've broken every object I run into NPCs sometimes that I don't have items for. Is it because it's on Easy or am I just missing items without realizing it?

Posted by: Walrus Dec 24 2008, 02:53 AM

Damnit, that was supposed to say "awake," not "asleep." Anyway, you might be missing items from the object respawns. I don't know how many turns it takes for them to do so, but you get 26 turns for every scene anyway, so you can spend as much time waiting for them as you want.

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 24 2008, 02:55 AM

Ah right I forgot items respawn... Seems I've only missed NPC items so I'm not too worried.

Unless some Knight items don't show up until they respawn... v.v

Posted by: Walrus Dec 24 2008, 03:09 AM

Some of them don't, but it's difficult to tell unless you're keeping track of which items you've gotten and who they're for. I don't know if you know what "key item" looks like in Katakana, but objects containing them will give a green banner that has those characters, after a comma I believe. I don't think there's a notification of respawn key items, but this way you don't have to break/open everything you find just to see if it has one.

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 24 2008, 03:20 AM

I find the easiest way is to just look at it and if there's a silhouette of a character in the upper left corner it's for a Knight. NPCs only get a silhouette of their art but not of their sprite.

Posted by: Walrus Dec 24 2008, 01:38 PM

I know, I meant using the wiki to find out which items are in the scene, and whether or not those characters are Knights or NPCs. They don't always have exact details of the items on the page.

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 24 2008, 02:29 PM

Where's that wiki at again?
I probably won't be able to read it but I supposed at least knowing what items are in a scene can help me figure out what I need to be getting.

Posted by: Walrus Dec 24 2008, 05:43 PM

I figured you'd have found it after my reply to your topic at GFAQs, but a semi-understandable translated version is HERE. Otherwise just try knights.heriet.info

Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Dec 24 2008, 05:55 PM

Oh so that was you who posted over there... >.>
Thanks.