time of giving?, your views on other celebrations Options

[Swiyth]

personally, Christmas has been around longer than any of us for a few hundred times.

i once read somewhere that it originated from the romans. they would walk around with home-made presents and start giving it away. eventually, since romans were a strong country, they took over, obviously.

after that time, a monk started going around advertising his religion. he used the fir tree, with three sides, to represent God, The Holy One and something i forgot.

eventually, the tree became a holy symbol and was hung upside down on roman doors.

this religion was so famous, that it spread across the countries, and eventually, to America and England.

but it didn't last long for the English. for around the 17th century, Christmas was outlawed for something about lacking religious meaning or something.

but offcourse, that didn't last long, and people still gave away gifts and was very jolly about it. eventually, it reverted back to normal.

Santa Claus was also pretty much a new character. and the red sock was invented by someone i-forgot-who.

before Santa Claus though, there was Saint Nick. and eventually, the first picture of Santa Claus was drawn, and here is our view of big jolly fat-assed santa.

sooooooooooo. any other celebrations?

[Dr Strum]

Perhaps you should have read the Wikipedia Article before posting this.
And if by "other celebrations" you mean, are there any other holidays going on at this time, then, most likely.

[Swiyth]

hmm.........strange. well, its probably after Christmas was already around and this is the other side of the world.

Jesus wasn't celebrated until he died and his birth wasn't as important as when he was dead.

so i guess it might already be either an existing celebration, or it just surfaced through the sands of time.




and....uh...yeah, that. any other holiday celebrations that we know the history and background of, we can post here, i guess. myths and legends always make me happy of sorts.

[Dr Strum]

Did you read the full thing?
It is the celebration of Christ's birth, however, it was merged with other celebrations, those celebrations being almost all of wealth. Which could be the cause of the over-commercialization of it.

[Swiyth]

hmm....it was said in the article i read, that people were getting bored of sending home-made gifts and wanted more elaborate gifts. thus, shops selling train sets and stuff like those started sprouting.

[Dr Strum]

What?
How does that relate to what we were discussing?

[Swiyth]

we're discussing about celebrations and currently, we're talking about christmas. this is sort of related to christmas.

[Dr Strum]

Yes, but you didn't respond to my post, you tapered off on another subject, but started it as if you WERE responding to my post.

[Swiyth]

i did read the full thing. thing is, the article and Wikipedia is sort of....opposing.

but anyways, the commercialism of Christmas was only there when people wanted more gifts when they couldn't make any themselves, or, they wanted better ones.

[Dr Strum]

First, what did you mean that Wikipedia is "opposing"?

Then, the commercialization of Christmas couldn't come from that. Do you know what I mean by "commercialization"?

[Swiyth]

what i read was different from it and its origins were different. thats opposing of sorts.

depending on your views of commercialism and what you were talking about, its either the spread of chirstmas or just the gifts.

in which this case, i was talking about the gifts.