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Posted by: mindthinker Aug 28 2007, 02:08 PM

I will making a game based on riviera but yall dont think im cloning or ripping it. I just want some ideas such as the storyline and etc. I will make it after my school exams which 3 months again(awww) but dont worry . with all the help that i got, the game will finish ASAP so start posting your ideas.

Posted by: sandpenguin Aug 29 2007, 09:35 AM

Umm...not making,make. Anyways good luck!!

Posted by: Sauce XIV Aug 29 2007, 08:32 PM

Fanmade games are often far more horrible than those made by an official company like Sting or Atlus, and I'm highly inclined to believe that your games won't bring any novelty to Riviera. Unless you can prove me wrong, I stand firmly beside my opinion.

Posted by: mindthinker Aug 30 2007, 06:05 AM

what i mean is i want to recreate that game with dififrent storyline and new features(e.g move with freedom). So, by doing that, i want yall help so i can make the new game but based on RIVIERA CONCEPTS. NOT THE GAME ITSELF.

Posted by: sandpenguin Aug 30 2007, 06:12 AM

Based on Riviera concepts? If it was different from Riviera why just you make your own game with A DIFFERENT TITLE AND STORYLINE......



For me,yes it is far more horrible if fans made games but who knows what will happen in the future??

Posted by: mindthinker Aug 30 2007, 06:24 AM

Did you read about what i wrote just now?
I said i wanted to make game that based on riviera concept(eg: characters, info) not based on the game itself! (eg: title, the storyline)

Posted by: Violently Happy Aug 31 2007, 02:51 AM

well if your games is that good then post it

Posted by: mindthinker Aug 31 2007, 04:06 AM

Posted by: Raijinili Aug 31 2007, 05:27 AM

How will you program the game?
That's mean.
Are you so self-centered that you think he cares enough about your opinion on this that he will stop trying? For that matter, does your opinion matter enough for him to try to put some real effort into changing it?

Posted by: sandpenguin Aug 31 2007, 12:45 PM

Why everytime us newbies wants to do something to contribute for this site and ask for your help (The veterans) you're act cold-hearted. We want to make this site active again as it's hey-day again....so please support or give ideas to him okay? Although he was a bit....harsh.

Way to go Rai!!

Posted by: mindthinker Aug 31 2007, 02:34 PM

Why you wanted to know?

Posted by: Chaos Seraph Aug 31 2007, 04:47 PM

Are you so self centered that you think Sauce cares about your opinion of mind caring about Sauce?


:D

Posted by: jcdietz03 Sep 1 2007, 12:49 AM

It takes A LOT OF WORK to do something like what u are proposing. You can go to http://www.romhacking.net to see mods of some popular video games. You can even read docs about how you can start your own mods. There are also free downloads of tools there. Go get started. Let us know how far you get. If you get stuck, let us know how we can help. If you give up, be sure and post here a link to the work you did on it so others can continue from where u left off if they feel so inclined.

Posted by: Raijinili Sep 1 2007, 05:03 AM

Because if you don't have a plan for a method, then I shouldn't help you until you do. It's pretty pointless, since without a plan you won't get far.

Also, because if I don't know your plan, there's, like, no way to help you anyway.
Yes. Uh... I think. Come again?

Posted by: mindthinker Sep 1 2007, 07:52 AM

I already planned my game(eg; what to do this and that) but it IT STILL DOESNT LOOK SO GOOD.So, that's why i need your help so i can make game better in a form of storyline or graphics.

Posted by: Raijinili Sep 2 2007, 07:16 AM

You didn't plan HOW you would make your game, did you?

Posted by: mindthinker Sep 2 2007, 10:42 AM

I did planned HOW i make my game but in the same time i also need your help by giving me infos such as the characters's personality or the mission.

Posted by: Sauce XIV Sep 2 2007, 06:17 PM

He's asking what program and what script you're going to be doing this in. He doesn't want a "Yes, I did plan how." answer, he wants an answer that shows that you planned how you would make it.

And no, I'm not saying you can't script from scratch.

Posted by: mindthinker Sep 3 2007, 01:05 AM

Duddete, what the hell are you saying?

Rai was asking me if i already planned my game out but not about the programs and the scripts.

Posted by: Raijinili Sep 3 2007, 01:27 AM

From my first post: "How will you program the game?"

Posted by: Sauce XIV Sep 3 2007, 02:17 AM

I am offended.

Posted by: mindthinker Sep 4 2007, 05:32 AM

I'm very confused about both of you, Rai and Sauce.
im started this topic because i want some help in form of suggestion about my game .Not about the program or what. MAN........................

It is secret. I will not tell you. If you want to know, tell me 5 logic reason why you want to know about the program, then i will tell you about the program.



Why?

Posted by: Raijinili Sep 4 2007, 07:45 AM

5 reasons?
1) So I know you are serious about this
2) Because I can't help you with tips on programming the game if I don't know WHAT YOU'RE PROGRAMMING IN.
3) Because I see no reason for you to keep it a secret if you actually have a plan.
4) Is it RPGMaker?
5) I don't need five reasons. Give me one reason for you keeping it a secret.

Posted by: sandpenguin Sep 4 2007, 09:40 AM

Well, how can people help you if you didn't tell them the software or tools needed to make games. Maybe they were pros in the softwares and can give you some tips.
If it is the story, would you mind to tell us the story? Maybe we can help IMPROVE the story.

Posted by: Chaos Seraph Sep 4 2007, 10:05 AM

You think people look like their avatars don't you?

Posted by: mindthinker Sep 4 2007, 10:23 AM

Dude, the first thing is:
If i told them about the program, let say, RPGMaker (this is not the program that i used) and they knew what my program was, they will say "oh, it only RPGMaker. Well, look at the time, better get posting'' At the end, you find out that the is no point telling everyone about the program. You're just wasting your time.

The second thing is:
ATTENTION! TO ALL LCN MEMBERS! You all are do not need to worry at all about the program or tools because i already have my team members. They all have the same program that i used. So, once again, you do not nedd to worry at all. The only problem at here is the system(eg;moving-how can the character move. 4 directions only or what?)



Man, all of those reasons were totally rubbish.

Posted by: sandpenguin Sep 4 2007, 10:41 AM

Well, if you say that we can't do anything then. Anyways, good luck and if it's complete send us a demo or something. You can use ANY type of movements that you want, we don't care much about it.

Need not nedd.

Posted by: Sauce XIV Sep 4 2007, 08:35 PM

Uh. You realize Rai is like, one of the best hackers LCN has, if not the best. Rai knows a TON about coding, and enrolling his help is a very wise move. He can't help you unless you tell him what program and what scripts and all that jazz.



That's all fine and dandy, but your team members are not adequate replacements for programs and tools to make the game. Just because they all have the same program doesn't mean they know how to use it.




You're rubbish for thinking that. He asked one because if you were really serious, you wouldn't consider hiding your idea. You'd want to get as much input as possible about every possible aspect of what you're doing. You're just being egotistical and foolish by hiding it.

He gave reason two because it's self explanatory.

For number three, see answer to number one.

Number four, RPGMaker sucks for making actual games.

As for number five, Rai's asking why you're keeping it a secret. If you can't come up with an adequate response, then you can't say that you're keeping it a secret for a good reason.

Posted by: Raijinili Sep 5 2007, 05:20 AM

Number 4 is because I'm wondering why he would be embarrassed about the program he's using.

Well, mindthinker. One of the first rules of getting help is to help the person understand your situation. You don't see anyone else here interested in helping. If you refuse to cooperate, I won't bother either.

Edit: And being one of the most talented "hackers" here isn't actually impressive.

Posted by: Sauce XIV Sep 5 2007, 08:45 PM

Given that hardly any of us can or are willing to take the time to hack was the backing to that statement, Rai.

Posted by: DustyHaru Sep 6 2007, 08:48 PM

some things:

1. RPGmaker = EVIL!
2. Add new items
3. Add new skills (?)
4. Curse you RPGmaker!
5. Have a battle arena function to fight certain monsters for fun (?)

I have a deep resentment of RPGmaker (yea, I know you're not using it)

-Dusty

Posted by: Takeru-kun Sep 7 2007, 08:53 PM

Some things:

1. The public needs to know.
2. Yes.
3. I am not a crazed chick attacking a girl with a whack-a-mole mallet, even though my avatar appears as such.
4. We can't help you if you don't tell us anything. If we came up with an idea, it'd most likely be shot down, because it's interfering with a limit you have yet to inform us of. Unless you're telling us you haven't thought of anything yet, in which case, wow.
5. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
6, to Dusty: OR IS HE?

Posted by: Enexodia Forbiddensia Sep 17 2007, 04:30 AM

Exactly what RPG Maker (2k, 2k3, XP?) are you talking about, That you resent it too much?



If you are using XP, then good since it has RGSS

Not really sure how to give you some tips really.

Posted by: sandpenguin Sep 17 2007, 05:36 AM

Wow cooooollll!! I cannot believe that it could be very pretty because I think many fan made games are usually cluttered and crap. But now I have doubt about it.

Posted by: Enexodia Forbiddensia Sep 17 2007, 05:43 AM

GamingW man, best rpg maker game creators...
That one's Angelic Awakening, I'm making one but only uses Riviera Rips

Posted by: sandpenguin Sep 17 2007, 06:04 AM

Oww...I'm so crap at drawing. I can't even sketch a simple box! How can I make games even if I cannot draws?

Posted by: mindthinker Sep 18 2007, 09:15 AM

Dude, man/woman ???? that was totally awesome. You create that by yourself? Amazing. wait till i finish up my game.

Posted by: Sauce XIV Sep 18 2007, 06:37 PM

How about you show us progress then, Mindthinker? Surely some screens or something isn't too much to ask for. It's just so we know you're actually serious and so we can form opinions about your work.

And by the way, that was not an arbitrary attempt at flaming.

Posted by: Enexodia Forbiddensia Sep 19 2007, 07:24 AM

I didn't made it, a fellow female named Skie Fortress did it :)
GamingW is the best place for this kind of things ^^

Yeah mind, I agree with sauce, probably some screens will make them more motivated to give you tips :)

And maybe some mapping or something will do :o

What program are you using?

Posted by: mindthinker Sep 21 2007, 12:52 PM

sorry, sauce. I already done(well, a little bit) on codding but the graphics were still in progress.
so overall:
Graphics:1111111111
Codding::1111111111

I hope i will finish it in 2 months.

Posted by: Mysteryman Sep 27 2007, 11:38 PM

Questions:
1. What software will we need to use (if any (e.g. standalone progam)) to play the game?
2. Is this game going to be a game with some features and aspects in common with Riviera?
3. What website will it be released at?
4. What genre of game would you classify this as?

Posted by: CATGUN Sep 28 2007, 03:50 AM

This is to the one who is trying to make the game.Don;t let those who badly comment you affect the developing of the game.Make sure the game is fully developed which mean no bug okay.Is this game for pc or gba?If you need any help on the sound or bgm music you can always e-mail me any time.To make the game easier and filled with idea try referring to the fanfics written in this site many people has made such a nice fanfinc(well in my opinion0or just head on to fanfiction.com for more idea.The only idea I can give is some scene in the game should be filled with cg pics like riviera game.Ps don't give up please show some screenshot of the game to let people know okay.You can do it if you believe in yourself.

Posted by: sandpenguin Sep 28 2007, 08:06 AM

Hey, thanks a lot guys. For your information, Mindthinker now rarely go to the internet cause our school gonna held another exam! Ouch, what a pain in the butt. How did I know him? He's my classmate.

Thanks for the fanfic thingy Catgun. Wow, I can't believe that many newbies send some post into this forum....

Posted by: Raijinili Sep 29 2007, 06:46 AM

What's that supposed to mean?

Posted by: Sauce XIV Sep 29 2007, 06:47 AM

I am also intrigued.

Posted by: Raijinili Sep 29 2007, 07:14 AM

You look for the slimmest chances to attack sandpenguin, you don't count.

Posted by: Sauce XIV Sep 29 2007, 07:41 AM

You confuse him for someone else.

Posted by: Raijinili Sep 29 2007, 07:52 AM

N00b by association?

Posted by: Sauce XIV Sep 29 2007, 08:13 AM

Probably.

Posted by: sandpenguin Oct 2 2007, 11:44 AM

Ha....I give you photo of me and Mindthinker if you don't mind.....But my face looks crappy with pimples everywhere.....Ask Mindthinker. Man, it's hard to convince other people that you're not that guy. But sorry, exam's nearing the door and I'll gonna go now. Hold my promise.....someday.....

Oh, I didn't care about that noob, geek stuff. Shoot, it's damn hard to convince other people in the net.

Posted by: Enexodia Forbiddensia Oct 4 2007, 01:42 AM

What is this supposed to mean -_-

Posted by: Sauce XIV Oct 4 2007, 02:39 AM

That sandpenguin thinks he has superiority over everyone else.

That's how I'm interpreting it.

Posted by: Enexodia Forbiddensia Oct 5 2007, 04:28 AM

I hope he shows something interesting or I'll be pissed.

Posted by: CATGUN Oct 16 2007, 03:02 AM

I wonder how the progress of the game so far,also if the gamemaker is reading this make sure to leave the spec of what the game can be play on.Example:can be played only in psp or windows xp or higher.

Posted by: CATGUN Feb 26 2008, 01:23 PM

Hey everyone check this out: http://www.rpgrevolution.com/forums/?showtopic=5344

Posted by: Archeia Feb 27 2008, 05:02 AM

Already saw that and that's Skie's game that I posted the screen ages ago.

Posted by: CATGUN Mar 13 2008, 06:57 AM

So you have tried it?to me the game is good but from what I heard the game is no longer continue.(maybe)

Posted by: Archeia Mar 13 2008, 10:34 AM

Skie Fortress is from GamingW (aka Mirage Verius in others)
She's working on it when she's not working on SEB~

Blame us SEB fans that we dont' give her the chance to do AA @_@

Posted by: Skie Mar 15 2008, 06:11 PM

Hahaha...Wow, I never imagined that Angelic Awakening would reach Lacrima Castle.

Yes, I'm the creator of that game. Hello everyone. I did get the majority of my graphics from here to make this game before making my own face expressions and sprites, so I guess I have to thank you all for making this game possible.

Well to answer some questions regarding it...

1. The game is not discontinued, just halted in favor for another project, like Archeia said.

2. The game isn't a Riviera fangame actually. It's just Riviera styled, but it still takes place in my own world with my own characters. I just used Riviera graphics as a homage. I guess you could call it a Riviera fangame in spirit though...

Annnd I think that's all.

Posted by: Archeia Mar 16 2008, 02:55 AM

*gasp* It's...skie!!!
Wow I didn't thought you'll join in so soon~ I thought it'll take you a while XD

Posted by: Skie Mar 16 2008, 04:02 AM

Actually, I lurk the place in short bursts. I just haven't had a look at LCN recently until you mentioned Angelic Awakening being brought up here.

Posted by: CATGUN Mar 16 2008, 04:08 AM

Hi there Skie welcome to Lcn.I love your game dude.Although is notr based on Riviera but I am amazed of the battle script.So..when the game will complete?Even another demo willl be nice.

Posted by: Skie Mar 16 2008, 04:18 AM

Another demo? Maybe after I finish the next two dungeons. The Moonreading Temple and then The Sealed Tower.