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Lacrima Castle _ Knights in the Nightmare _ Knights in the Nightmare PSP

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Mar 10 2009, 10:34 PM

Is Knights in the Nightmare ever going to come out on PSP? I know that is just came out but I'm curious to know if they would ever do that.
I don't want to buy a DS just for this game like i did for Yggdra Union (I bought a PSP just for it). So, is there any possibility that it will come out, because it's touch screen and I don't know how they would put it in the play station portable

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Posted by: P.P.A. Mar 10 2009, 10:39 PM

I assume it'd play horribly with an analogue stick instead of a touchscreen.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Mar 10 2009, 11:42 PM

Well I'd play it even if it's hard to control! I'm really desperate to play it. I think I'll just borrow my friends Ds or something and buy the game

Posted by: Yuka Mar 11 2009, 12:10 AM

I REALLY doubt it. The game is nowhere near suited for a PSP control scheme.

Posted by: Dr Sturm Mar 11 2009, 03:01 AM

Sting isn't stupid. This game would be god awful on PSP, not just from a control perspective, but from an interface perspective. They would have to completely rework the gameplay to put it on PSP.
Not to mention Kitten is on a vibrant console; Riviera and YU were ported to PSP because they were initially (twice for Riviera) placed on dying systems.

Posted by: Raijinili Mar 18 2009, 06:10 AM

Wait...

Oh crap. It'd be hard to port Kitten. But Sting ports everything nowadays! CAN'T PROCESS

Posted by: Dr Sturm Mar 18 2009, 03:01 PM

It wouldn't be hard to port it. It would be impossible (except maybe to Wii). They would have to remake it for any other console; changing the gameplay entirely.

Posted by: Raijinili Mar 19 2009, 06:54 AM

Impossible is infinite hard.

Posted by: Archeia Mar 31 2009, 09:23 PM

Impossible, Knights use that touch screen for a reason and it works great

Posted by: GB140 Apr 4 2009, 10:33 AM

I can't imagine it being remade into PSP the way it is now. It would be almost impossible... (Unless they do remake it for Wii, like Sturm said.)

Posted by: mattiator May 2 2009, 10:04 PM

The only console that MIGHT see a port of the awesomeness that is KITN is the iTouch. Put simply, it's the only machine with a touchscreen that has a developing gaming market. PLUS the DS Lite is going down the crapper with the DSi, which removes the DS/GBA functionality in KITN.

Posted by: Dr Sturm May 3 2009, 04:24 PM

... The only DS/GBA functionality in Kitten is easter eggs; you're missing nothing vital by not having a GBA slot.
And the iPod Touch has no developing gaming market. It has a developing casual gaming market, but they aren't the type of people to play Kitten.

Posted by: mattiator May 3 2009, 05:31 PM

QUOTE(Dr Sturm @ May 3 2009, 10:24 AM) *

... The only DS/GBA functionality in Kitten is easter eggs; you're missing nothing vital by not having a GBA slot.
And the iPod Touch has no developing gaming market. It has a developing casual gaming market, but they aren't the type of people to play Kitten.


You make a good point there. I was simply saying that's the only console I could see KITN working on (not the Wii, it's too imprecise for a game like this).

Posted by: Dr Sturm May 3 2009, 05:40 PM

Because this game requires high precision.
No.

Posted by: Shiokazu Jul 19 2009, 10:33 PM

impossible,just because,GEEZ play the game and youll see.

the dual screen thing,i mean scenes goin in upper scren then in lower screen.

scenary info in upper screen before the battle. those are important points.

the touchscreen gameplay also is a realy heavy point,the itouch can handle it? i dont think so...

kitten without the dual screen story telling and touch gameplay isnt kitten. IMO

Posted by: Dr Sturm Jul 19 2009, 11:26 PM

I think the dual screen thing is only so that your hand doesn't get in the way of the action. I'm sure the game would work on Wii. Might not be the most pleasant experience, but I'm certain it would work.

Posted by: Shiokazu Jul 19 2009, 11:47 PM

wii mote doesnt have the same grip as the styllus. you can notice it while playing metroid.

but you can imagine it in a home console?

Posted by: Dr Sturm Jul 19 2009, 11:50 PM

Why not? It's not like I'd ever play Kitten NOT at home (or any DS game requiring the stylus, for that matter).

Posted by: Shiokazu Jul 20 2009, 03:42 AM

still i think that the wiimote grip isnt good as the stylus,since the wiimote is... actualy... in the air.

i can imagine some cool 3d scenes of maria fighting,AWESOME

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jul 20 2009, 09:17 AM

well imanaged to get a ds from my cousin and actually preordered the game! duh. i also played the japanese version on my cousins ds so dont say i didnt play. i was just curious.

Posted by: mattiator Jul 20 2009, 09:12 PM

Heard of the PSP No? Maybe Sting will do what it's done with cellphones and release little games based on KITN for it (and hopefully a translation of Baroque Syndrome while we're at it).

Posted by: Archeia Jan 13 2010, 01:32 AM

OKAY.
I can't believe I'm saying this but they're actually releasing KiTN for the PSP as seen in this week's famitsu. I MEAN SERIOUSLY, WHAT?!

news here:
http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?t=384755

Posted by: Miki Trie' Jan 13 2010, 01:36 AM

OMG yay!

Posted by: Rhiannon Jan 13 2010, 01:44 AM

See, this is why I didn't post here. I think you're all crazy. :( It would definitely have inferior controls on a different system, but it WOULD work. Like it worked in Okami. Good thing you don't need to draw decent circles to progress in this game...

I take back what I said. Enzd reminded me that the PSP has a fake analog stick.

Posted by: Dr Sturm Jan 13 2010, 04:42 AM

I am seriously starting to hate Sting. If this version of Kitten is not absolutely superior to the DS version, I'm done with the DHE series.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 13 2010, 05:23 AM

I am sooo happy if they make it on the PSP! I am going to buy it!!

Posted by: Archeia Jan 13 2010, 12:44 PM

QUOTE(Dr Sturm @ Jan 13 2010, 02:12 PM) *

I am seriously starting to hate Sting. If this version of Kitten is not absolutely superior to the DS version, I'm done with the DHE series.


I thought of the same. KitN is so stylus heavy to be put in the psp, I hope it won't end up as a flop like Yggdra Unison or I will start hating any DHE related...

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 13 2010, 01:57 PM

Why are you making such a big deal for Sting putting Knights in the Nightmare on the PSP?

Why would you hate Department Heaven just for that simple little thing. So just because they would go put KITN on the PSP you would hate everything related to DHE?

That is called a fake fan. Even just for the littlest thing, I wouldn't hate it. I don't care if they put Yggdra Union on the PS3, as long as they keep continuing to make games for DHE I am happy.

Posted by: flunky1412 Jan 13 2010, 02:37 PM

and an animated opening movie.

I can't wait to see how Maria will appear in this :x

Posted by: Atma Jan 13 2010, 03:25 PM

This is disgusting.

The PSP and the DS work very differently form each other, which is fine. I adore both systems. But some things were never meant to be ported. KITN is one of these things. There is no fucking way you could possibly replicate the battle system faithfully on the PSP. There is no need for this port to exist. I don't care what extras it's going to have, unless they somehow change it to play like a dream using button control, which I highly doubt since the battle system was made specifically for the touch screen, or even re-do the whole battle system in some balls-out way, which I also doubt happening, I'm not gonna buy it. It's 120% not worth it.

The Yggdra Union port worked because it always just relied on regular button control and nothing exclusive and/or gimmicky to a system like touch control. KITN did. They're taking away a large chunk of what makes it so damn good and unique.

I absolutely adore KITN, which is why I'm so angry, because this is nothing but pure pandering. It's disgusting on many levels. What the fucking fuck, Sting. Don't be a douche like this; you should know better.

All we can really do is hope some miracle level porting magic happens, but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 13 2010, 11:00 PM

I am buying it no matter what. I buy whatever DHE thing I am able to find and afford.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 13 2010, 11:03 PM

Okay. Now I think it isn't going to be original because look at this post.

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Posted by: Rhiannon Jan 13 2010, 11:10 PM

If they change the system then there's no point in porting it in the first place.

BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE D PAD CONTROL WOULDN'T BE THAT BAD WITH A LARGER SCREEN. And then there's the fact that Sting knows how to use magic.

Also, Archeia, you should have expected Yggdra Unison to be nothing special, since it was originally a cell phone game and only a "side-story." :(

Posted by: Yuka Jan 13 2010, 11:30 PM

This will suck. GG, Sting. I THOUGHT YOU WERE A GOOD COMPANY BECAUSE RIVIERA, YU, BAROQUE, AND KITTEN WERE ALL STELLAR :<

Posted by: Enzd Jan 13 2010, 11:35 PM

Peeping Kitten is STING's April Fools joke for this year.

EDIT: Also, April 22nd is when they will announce the release of DHE IX.

Posted by: Dr Sturm Jan 13 2010, 11:41 PM

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Why would you hate Department Heaven just for that simple little thing

Because it would be selling out. If they make the game unquestionably better on PSP, then it's improving their art. If it's remotely worse, then it means they ported it for a quick buck.

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That is called a fake fan.

No, it's called having standards.

QUOTE
I buy whatever DHE thing I am able to find and afford.

This is called a fanboy. It's something negative.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 13 2010, 11:51 PM

I am a girl.

Posted by: Enzd Jan 14 2010, 12:03 AM

That doesn't matter.

Posted by: San Aurora Jan 14 2010, 12:27 AM

I don't know how the fuck they're going to do this, but new content other than an anime cutscene and talk recaps is required for me to buy. I think 10 extra maps is fair.

EDIT: Actually, new route. New Route is fair. :/

Posted by: Archeia Jan 14 2010, 12:44 AM

Allow me to break it down to you:

QUOTE(Hayashi Tenshi @ Jan 13 2010, 11:27 PM) *

Why are you making such a big deal for Sting putting Knights in the Nightmare on the PSP?

Why would you hate Department Heaven just for that simple little thing. So just because they would go put KITN on the PSP you would hate everything related to DHE?


Why? This is because it's like #$@$#!!!! Type Moon milking the hell out of Fate/Stay Night, which I might say, ANNOYING AS HELL.

Fate/Extra is a perfect example of butchery of Saber's character. WHAT'S WITH THE DUMB TRANSPARENT SKIRT AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ARMOR? SHE LOOKS LIKE A !@$#@#$!@!! SELL OUT. with a new all star cast that makes me think wtf just happened. I don't want the same thing to happen to KitN for a good reason, I LOVE IT and I don't want a dumb port to ruin all the love I have for it. In this game, god the gameplay =_=

QUOTE

That is called a fake fan. Even just for the littlest thing, I wouldn't hate it.


No, I feel betrayed.

QUOTE(Atma @ Jan 14 2010, 12:55 AM) *

This is disgusting.

The PSP and the DS work very differently form each other, which is fine. I adore both systems. But some things were never meant to be ported. KITN is one of these things. There is no fucking way you could possibly replicate the battle system faithfully on the PSP. There is no need for this port to exist. I don't care what extras it's going to have, unless they somehow change it to play like a dream using button control, which I highly doubt since the battle system was made specifically for the touch screen, or even re-do the whole battle system in some balls-out way, which I also doubt happening, I'm not gonna buy it. It's 120% not worth it.

The Yggdra Union port worked because it always just relied on regular button control and nothing exclusive and/or gimmicky to a system like touch control. KITN did. They're taking away a large chunk of what makes it so damn good and unique.

I absolutely adore KITN, which is why I'm so angry, because this is nothing but pure pandering. It's disgusting on many levels. What the fucking fuck, Sting. Don't be a douche like this; you should know better.

All we can really do is hope some miracle level porting magic happens, but I'm not holding my breath.


THANK YOU. YOU EXPRESSED IT BETTER THAN WHAT I COULD EVER DO.

*rage is gone and reads again and facepalm*

Oh and those:
http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1231175_1407.html

Posted by: Dr Sturm Jan 14 2010, 01:59 AM

QUOTE(Hayashi Tenshi @ Jan 13 2010, 05:51 PM) *

I am a girl.

Fanboy and fangirl are two very different things and have nothing to do with gender. If you're willing to blindly support a series like a Sony fanboy blindly supports Sony or a Nintendo fanboy blindly supports Nintendo, then you're a fanboy, regardless of what your gender is.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 14 2010, 02:03 AM

Well my bad for not knowing the definitions.

I'll shut up now.

Posted by: Atma Jan 14 2010, 02:07 AM

Recruiting the fencer Atma was proving to be a very difficult task for Maria. Atma's skills in that boss battle impressed the valkyrie on a lot of levels, from her battlefield grace, to her swordplay, and even her beauty. Maria's heart fluttered as she watched her take down the gigantic succubus that used to be a slutty maid at the castle. To be perfectly honest with herself, the way the two interacted turned her on immensely, in a way she had not felt since last erotically wrestling with Melissa. There was only one thing she could do.

She picked Atma up, put her under her arm, and carried her off to the abandoned knight's quarters at the castle. She kissed the mighty fencer on the lips and began to strip herself and Atma.

"I really like you." she said, as she picked up her sword, making Atma bend over. She swung it hard, landing the flat on her ass, doing this over and over again.

"NOW SAY MY NAME! WHO'S YOUR DADDY?"

Somewhere nearby, Hilgard could be heard vomiting.

Posted by: Raijinili Jan 14 2010, 03:53 AM

QUOTE(Atma @ Jan 13 2010, 10:25 AM) *

This is disgusting.

The PSP and the DS work very differently form each other, which is fine. I adore both systems. But some things were never meant to be ported. KITN is one of these things. There is no fucking way you could possibly replicate the battle system faithfully on the PSP. There is no need for this port to exist. I don't care what extras it's going to have, unless they somehow change it to play like a dream using button control, which I highly doubt since the battle system was made specifically for the touch screen, or even re-do the whole battle system in some balls-out way, which I also doubt happening, I'm not gonna buy it. It's 120% not worth it.

The Yggdra Union port worked because it always just relied on regular button control and nothing exclusive and/or gimmicky to a system like touch control. KITN did. They're taking away a large chunk of what makes it so damn good and unique.

I absolutely adore KITN, which is why I'm so angry, because this is nothing but pure pandering. It's disgusting on many levels. What the fucking fuck, Sting. Don't be a douche like this; you should know better.

All we can really do is hope some miracle level porting magic happens, but I'm not holding my breath.
These are the features of the DS that Kitten used:
- Touch screen, for moving the wisp around.
- Dual screen, for... basically nothing that didn't have to do with the fact that they were using the touch screen (like keeping the controls from being too precise, or blocking the view).

So if you're not using the touch screen, you don't need the dual screen. And the touch screen isn't necessary, since it's just controlling in Bullet Hell. Bullet Hell's been done with DIGITAL controls (with buttons to control speed), and the PSP has a (crappy) analog stick, so it's at least doable, especially since this time both hands will be on the handheld and thus they have the freedom of using the buttons on the other side to help with speed control (though I doubt they will, but the point is that the PSP port has potential). In fact, it's possible that Sting had planned a PSP remake all along, since there's really nothing like drawing minigames to prevent them from porting it.

This will probably be a dividing issue for LCN, but I'm on the wait-and-see side.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 14 2010, 01:55 PM

I was right from the moment I started this post.

My prediction was right that they were going to release KITN on the Play Station Portable. You all denied it because it would be utterly impossible to play on, but somehow Sting is going to tweek with it so it would be able to work on the Play Station Portable.

Anyway, I proved you all wrong when you all said it is not going to come to the Play Station Portable. It turns out it did. I know that this port would most likely make KITN horrible and hard to control but you know, at least be happy that it is going to have like an anime opening and voice acting. Sure the DS had voice acting but I mean full voice acting.


Posted by: P.P.A. Jan 14 2010, 02:40 PM

Silly ST!NG.

Posted by: DustyHaru Jan 14 2010, 03:31 PM

QUOTE(Hayashi Tenshi @ Jan 14 2010, 08:55 AM) *
I know that this port would most likely make KITN horrible and hard to control but you know, at least be happy that it is going to have like an anime opening and voice acting. Sure the DS had voice acting but I mean full voice acting.


You should never give up quality for a anime opening and voice acting; that's just terrible and such an excuse should be frowned upon.

Posted by: Enzd Jan 14 2010, 03:32 PM

QUOTE(Hayashi Tenshi @ Jan 14 2010, 05:55 AM) *
I was right from the moment I started this post.

My prediction was right that they were going to release KITN on the Play Station Portable. You all denied it because it would be utterly impossible to play on, but somehow Sting is going to tweek with it so it would be able to work on the Play Station Portable.

Anyway, I proved you all wrong when you all said it is not going to come to the Play Station Portable. It turns out it did.
I'd like to see some proof that you "predicted" anything. All you did in this topic was ask if we thought it would ever happen.

QUOTE
I know that this port would most likely make KITN horrible and hard to control but you know, at least be happy that it is going to have like an anime opening and voice acting. Sure the DS had voice acting but I mean full voice acting.
You're right. Who cares about terrible and possibly over-complicated controls when you can watch a three minute video and HEAR MORE TALKING!!1

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 14 2010, 03:59 PM

QUOTE(Enzd @ Jan 14 2010, 07:32 AM) *

QUOTE(Hayashi Tenshi @ Jan 14 2010, 05:55 AM) *
I was right from the moment I started this post.

My prediction was right that they were going to release KITN on the Play Station Portable. You all denied it because it would be utterly impossible to play on, but somehow Sting is going to tweek with it so it would be able to work on the Play Station Portable.

Anyway, I proved you all wrong when you all said it is not going to come to the Play Station Portable. It turns out it did.
I'd like to see some proof that you "predicted" anything. All you did in this topic was ask if we thought it would ever happen.

QUOTE
I know that this port would most likely make KITN horrible and hard to control but you know, at least be happy that it is going to have like an anime opening and voice acting. Sure the DS had voice acting but I mean full voice acting.
You're right. Who cares about terrible and possibly over-complicated controls when you can watch a three minute video and HEAR MORE TALKING!!1


Well it was in my mind okay? I knew somebody would say that but I predicted it would be Sturm or like Yuka.

Yeah, you know. Who cares about the horrible controls and game, I just want to hear my favorite characters voices especially Vinya. Also that means more amv's to make with the opening!

Posted by: DustyHaru Jan 14 2010, 04:03 PM

QUOTE(Hayashi Tenshi @ Jan 14 2010, 10:59 AM) *

Yeah, you know. Who cares about the horrible controls and game, I just want to hear my favorite characters voices especially Vinya. Also that means more amv's to make with the opening!



See, that right there is completely retarded and full of bullshit. Not only are you giving up core components of a GAME, but you are trying to replace it with frilly, useless, and more than likely terrible accessories.

Posted by: Enzd Jan 14 2010, 04:08 PM

QUOTE(Hayashi Tenshi @ Jan 14 2010, 07:59 AM) *

Well it was in my mind okay?
Doesn't count.

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I knew somebody would say that but I predicted it would be Sturm or like Yuka.
And yet you still posted that useless block knowing it would be invalidated within hours.

QUOTE
Yeah, you know. Who cares about the horrible controls and game, I just want to hear my favorite characters voices especially Vinya. Also that means more amv's to make with the opening!
This is just ridiculous.

Posted by: Yuka Jan 14 2010, 10:06 PM

The only character in the game who deserves a voice is Moja, by the way.

Also, it's people like you Hayashi that kill fandoms. LET'S BREAK GAMES JUST FOR THE SAKE OF VOICE ACTING AND ANIMATED OPENINGS FUCK YEAH

Disgusting.

Posted by: Raijinili Jan 14 2010, 11:16 PM

QUOTE(Hayashi)
I was right from the moment I started this post.

My prediction was right that they were going to release KITN on the Play Station Portable. You all denied it because it would be utterly impossible to play on, but somehow Sting is going to tweek with it so it would be able to work on the Play Station Portable.
Your post was less of a "They're going to port the game" than a "I hope they port the game even if it turns out to be horrible because I don't have a DS," and you have access to a DS now.
QUOTE(Yuka)
Also, it's people like you Hayashi that kill fandoms. LET'S BREAK GAMES JUST FOR THE SAKE OF VOICE ACTING AND ANIMATED OPENINGS FUCK YEAH
Don't be so hard on the kid.

Besides, I think it'll be pretty hard to make the game terrible just because of a battle system which would work just as well with a decent analog stick.

Posted by: Yuka Jan 14 2010, 11:25 PM

Rai, the PSP's analog stick is terrible. It's not suited to this kind of game.

Posted by: Raijinili Jan 15 2010, 12:25 AM

We can only hope they use the right side of the PSP to do speed control, then.

Posted by: San Aurora Jan 15 2010, 01:26 AM

QUOTE(Dr Sturm @ Jan 12 2010, 09:42 PM) *

I'm done with the DHE series.


You already said that when Sting revealed how Zolognark is omg Hades.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 15 2010, 01:34 AM

I don't know why you would be done with the DHE series just for a little simple thing. I think that is stupid.

Posted by: Raijinili Jan 15 2010, 02:03 AM

He's a music fan. He hates sellouts.

Posted by: Dr Sturm Jan 15 2010, 03:28 AM

QUOTE
You already said that when Sting revealed how Zolognark is omg Hades.

In that case, I meant as a series. I'm not going to bother with the story of the series anymore. It's become too ridiculous. This time it means with the games period.

Posted by: P.P.A. Jan 15 2010, 07:05 AM

"Breaking News: ST!NG reveals touchscreen-addon for PSP"

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 15 2010, 02:21 PM

QUOTE(P.P.A. @ Jan 14 2010, 11:05 PM) *

"Breaking News: ST!NG reveals touchscreen-addon for PSP"


Are you serious?

Posted by: Enzd Jan 15 2010, 02:57 PM

Of course he is. Everything on the Internet is true.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 15 2010, 11:35 PM

How would you add touch screen to PSP?

Posted by: Enzd Jan 16 2010, 12:42 AM

You plug it into the connectamajig.

Posted by: Archeia Jan 16 2010, 12:50 AM

QUOTE(P.P.A. @ Jan 15 2010, 04:35 PM) *

"Breaking News: ST!NG reveals touchscreen-addon for PSP"


Nice one ;D

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 16 2010, 05:51 PM

Yeah, it seems like a lie.

Posted by: Enzd Jan 16 2010, 08:39 PM

QUOTE(Hayashi Tenshi @ Jan 16 2010, 09:51 AM) *
Yeah, it seems like a lie.

You're a fool if you actually believed that.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 17 2010, 04:16 AM

QUOTE(Enzd @ Jan 16 2010, 12:39 PM) *

QUOTE(Hayashi Tenshi @ Jan 16 2010, 09:51 AM) *
Yeah, it seems like a lie.

You're a fool if you actually believed that.


Gosh, you don't have to be so rude about it. I didn't believe it at all so why are you suspecting that I actually believed it? I don't even think ST!NG can even just install a touch screen on the PSP just for Knights in the Nightmare.

Why are you so mean to me?

Posted by: blue grim angel Jan 22 2010, 12:13 AM

Because you tend to say a lot of wrong things. Although it's also just this forum in general, as everyone here just loves to get into arguments.

What I agree with:
*An extra movie and some voices do not make up for a whole game I've already bought. (Despite the fact that I really would get Riviera or Yggdra Union.)
*The DS's set up really helped make KitN special, and showing up on the PSP won't get the same effect. Although if Sting found another way to show this game in a cool new way, then that could possibly compensate.

Even if this doesn't live up to the DS version, I'm still curious to see if it'll be a good PSP game. So far, all everone's done is bitch, but this has just as much chance at failing as it does at succeeding. I'm prepared for either outcome.

Really guys, have at least a little faith, will you?

Posted by: Raijinili Jan 22 2010, 01:37 AM

I am dissapoint.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 22 2010, 03:43 AM

QUOTE(blue grim angel @ Jan 21 2010, 04:13 PM) *

Because you tend to say a lot of wrong things. Although it's also just this forum in general, as everyone here just loves to get into arguments.

What I agree with:
*An extra movie and some voices do not make up for a whole game I've already bought. (Despite the fact that I really would get Riviera or Yggdra Union.)
*The DS's set up really helped make KitN special, and showing up on the PSP won't get the same effect. Although if Sting found another way to show this game in a cool new way, then that could possibly compensate.

Even if this doesn't live up to the DS version, I'm still curious to see if it'll be a good PSP game. So far, all everone's done is bitch, but this has just as much chance at failing as it does at succeeding. I'm prepared for either outcome.

Really guys, have at least a little faith, will you?


Where have I said something wrong?

Posted by: blue grim angel Jan 22 2010, 04:00 AM

Well for one, you said a three minute video and voices were more important than gameplay. That alone does not fly well with the average gamer.

Those new voices will be pointless if the game is unplayable to the point where you can't even reach the next scene without frustration.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 22 2010, 04:02 AM

QUOTE(blue grim angel @ Jan 21 2010, 08:00 PM) *

Well for one, you said a three minute video and voices were more important than gameplay. That alone does not fly well with the average gamer.

Those new voices will be pointless if the game is unplayable to the point where you can't even reach the next scene without frustration.


When did I say that? I just said that at least it will have a video and voices, THAT DID NOT SAY THAT IT WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN GAMEPLAY!

You are just twisting my words.

Posted by: blue grim angel Jan 22 2010, 04:10 AM

Not really...

QUOTE(Hayashi Tenshi @ Jan 14 2010, 08:55 AM) *
I know that this port would most likely make KITN horrible and hard to control but you know, at least be happy that it is going to have like an anime opening and voice acting.


Even if you didn't say that exactly, you still made it sound like you were more worried about the cutscenes than the control scheme. You just need to choose your words more carefully around here.

Posted by: Vahn Jan 22 2010, 04:21 AM

Not only has this thread descended into bashing Hayashi for just about anything he says, it's also irrelevent, given that it has been established that KITN IS coming out on the PSP.

So why are you still posting?

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 22 2010, 04:58 AM

QUOTE(Vahn @ Jan 21 2010, 08:21 PM) *

Not only has this thread descended into bashing Hayashi for just about anything he says, it's also irrelevent, given that it has been established that KITN IS coming out on the PSP.

So why are you still posting?


How many times do I have to say it, I AM A GIRL.

Seriously, I am getting tired of you people calling me a "he".

Posted by: Vahn Jan 22 2010, 06:08 AM

See what I mean? People here will mock you and say mean things no matter how hard you try to be nice. There WILL be people who call you a guy no matter how many times you call yourself a girl, no matter what color the word girl is.

You can keep arguing with them, making them laugh at how tired you're getting of them making fun of you, take it all in stride and consider it just the way they are, or ignore them in general.

Most likely none of those options will get people to stop though.

So before you decide to post something or argue with another member about something like words you said or your opinion, consider whether or not they care. More importantly, think about whether you're making a valid point or just restating the same things people have been ignoring all along.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 22 2010, 06:10 AM

QUOTE(Vahn @ Jan 21 2010, 10:08 PM) *

See what I mean? People here will mock you and say mean things no matter how hard you try to be nice. There WILL be people who call you a guy no matter how many times you call yourself a girl, no matter what color the word girl is.

You can keep arguing with them, making them laugh at how tired you're getting of them making fun of you, take it all in stride and consider it just the way they are, or ignore them in general.

Most likely none of those options will get people to stop though.

So before you decide to post something or argue with another member about something like words you said or your opinion, consider whether or not they care. More importantly, think about whether you're making a valid point or just restating the same things people have been ignoring all along.


Well you guys are all messed up for being so ignorant and rude.

Posted by: Vahn Jan 22 2010, 06:15 AM

Not all of us are.

I see Rai defending Miki almost every day here.

And I simply say what I want. If someone warns or bans me, I'll gladly accept it because of my rude words. Still gonna say what I want.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 22 2010, 06:17 AM

QUOTE(Vahn @ Jan 21 2010, 10:15 PM) *

Not all of us are.

I see Rai defending Miki almost every day here.

And I simply say what I want. If someone warns or bans me, I'll gladly accept it because of my rude words. Still gonna say what I want.


I don't know why you are so mean to the little kids here.

I don't see Miki doing anything mean to anyone besides when she was disgusted on how Atma was lez.

Posted by: Vahn Jan 22 2010, 06:24 AM

I can't speak for other members, so I won't tell you why they're mean to little kids.

And I'm pretty sure my last post clarified why I do it.

Having said that, other than calling you a guy (which I don't honestly believe, I just think it's fun), I try not to be a total jackass to you. I was giving you honest advice before when I said you should just stop bothering with what other members say.

Posted by: Hayashi Tenshi Jan 22 2010, 06:28 AM

QUOTE(Vahn @ Jan 21 2010, 10:24 PM) *

I can't speak for other members, so I won't tell you why they're mean to little kids.

And I'm pretty sure my last post clarified why I do it.

Having said that, other than calling you a guy (which I don't honestly believe, I just think it's fun), I try not to be a total jackass to you. I was giving you honest advice before when I said you should just stop bothering with what other members say.


Well you should have said that from the very start of this conversation.

I'll just ignore them then.

Posted by: Vahn Jan 22 2010, 06:29 AM

QUOTE(Vahn @ Jan 22 2010, 02:08 AM) *

See what I mean? People here will mock you and say mean things no matter how hard you try to be nice. There WILL be people who call you a guy no matter how many times you call yourself a girl, no matter what color the word girl is.

You can keep arguing with them, making them laugh at how tired you're getting of them making fun of you, take it all in stride and consider it just the way they are, or ignore them in general.

Most likely none of those options will get people to stop though.

So before you decide to post something or argue with another member about something like words you said or your opinion, consider whether or not they care. More importantly, think about whether you're making a valid point or just restating the same things people have been ignoring all along.


Posted by: Dr Sturm Jan 22 2010, 01:55 PM

Get back on fucking topic.

QUOTE
How many times do I have to say it, I AM A GIRL.

This is the internet. Gender doesn't exist. Get the fuck over it.

Posted by: Sigmund Jan 22 2010, 02:55 PM

QUOTE(Dr Sturm @ Jan 22 2010, 01:55 PM) *

This is the internet. Gender doesn't exist. Get the fuck over it.

Easy for you to say, Super Robot Sturm.

Posted by: Raijinili Jan 22 2010, 08:07 PM

Princess Pai.

Posted by: Vahn Jan 23 2010, 12:13 AM

QUOTE(Dr Sturm @ Jan 22 2010, 09:55 AM) *

Get back on fucking topic.

QUOTE
How many times do I have to say it, I AM A GIRL.

This is the internet. Gender doesn't exist. Get the fuck over it.


The point of the topic was to question and debate whether or not there would be a KITN for PSP.

I'd say that question has been answered, so how do we stay on topic?

Talk about how it WOULDN'T work instead of how IT WON'T work?

Posted by: Dr Sturm Jan 24 2010, 05:59 AM

QUOTE
The point of the topic was to question and debate whether or not there would be a KITN for PSP.


The topic was, and always has been, a discussion of the idea of Kitten on the PSP, and was created with the question of the possibility of Kitten for the PSP. Hence why the topic is not "Will there be Knights in the Nightmare on PSP" but rather "Knights in the Nightmare PSP"

Posted by: Vahn Jan 24 2010, 08:30 PM

So the "Is Knights in the Nightmare ever going to come out in PSP" in the title is completely insignificant and should just be ignored?

Sorry about that, then.

Posted by: blue grim angel Jan 25 2010, 03:24 AM

QUOTE(Vahn @ Jan 22 2010, 07:13 PM) *

Talk about how it WOULDN'T work instead of how IT WON'T work?

This.

Posted by: Dr Sturm Jan 25 2010, 01:24 PM

QUOTE
So the "Is Knights in the Nightmare ever going to come out in PSP" in the title is completely insignificant and should just be ignored?

That's the subtitle, not the title.

Posted by: Vahn Jan 28 2010, 12:52 AM

Alright. I repeat my last question, just changing title to subtitle.

Also, to further derail this topic, happy late birthday.

Posted by: Rhiannon Apr 26 2010, 09:54 AM

I don't know what off-topic stuff you people are talking about. This is the only post in this thread so far, after all.

Anyway, I beat Yggdra mode. The controls theoretically should be fine since you can adjust the speed, but I could never get used to doing that. The game was incredibly frustrating for me since I couldn't dodge things properly half the time, but I imagine that won't be a problem for everyone, and I'm guessing those who never played the DS version will have no problem at all.

I'm uh, happy that the music quality is up, but I feel like it got a lot quieter (or maybe just certain instruments) too. Or maybe it's just the PSP's silly speakers, who knows. Either way, I don't like that.

As for new content, there's practically nothing new outside of the story for Yggdra mode. There are no new scenes, no new bosses, barely any new attacks (aside from her Extra Skills, Yggdra just steals all of Maria's attacks), no new characters to recruit, no new music, and uh, one new item (the Sweetberry, which just replaces the Black/Silver Wings on Yggdra mode and has the same exact effect). Unless I just somehow conveniently missed even hints of it having anything else, but I doubt that. Even if they had somehow added a touch screen to the PSP, I'd still be disappointed with the game.

Only Atlus can save it now, by doing to it what they did to RiviPSP.

Posted by: Deathless Apr 26 2010, 05:25 PM

Can you explain about Atlus and their work with RiviPSP?

Posted by: Rhiannon Apr 26 2010, 07:10 PM

The original Japanese release of RiviPSP didn't have the full Chapter 8, so the English release of it was the first anyone saw of it. I'm just hoping for more in Kitten if/when they bring it over, really, so the port will feel more justified.

Posted by: San Aurora Apr 26 2010, 09:58 PM

Chapter 8 was never fun. I'd hope for more than that.

Posted by: Dr Sturm Apr 26 2010, 11:51 PM

Atlus USA technically didn't do that. Sting was forced to do it if they wanted SCEA to allow Atlus USA to release it in America.

Posted by: Rhiannon Apr 27 2010, 05:38 AM

I liked the full Chapter 8. :(

Posted by: Lite-Yoshi Sep 14 2010, 03:16 AM

I got something that'll dampen your spirits any (if it doesn't, I apologize but won't care).

US Release for the PSP Version November 9th. I'm not buying it. (I'm broke [already having plans to shell off my wallet on Ys I & II Chronicles and Oath in Felghana], and I already had a hellish time with the DS Version. Great game, but hellish. Tell me if this one's better, even with the third story.)

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=84158

Posted by: CardBoardBox Sep 15 2010, 04:52 PM

Its kind of strange that they'd release the US version first. I don't think it did too bad or too well here but there even less people with PSPs and that market probably finds what they might find 'gimmicky' less appealing.

Posted by: SyphonVectorman Sep 28 2010, 03:49 PM

I don't know if this was mentioned already (and I apologize ahead of time if it was.), but Atlus USA is releasing Knights in the Nightmare PSP with a free download ticket for Yggdra Union on the PSN. I don't know how long the promotion will last, but it's a good deal for those who haven't played Yggdra Union yet. :)

http://www.gamespot.com/psp/rpg/yggdraunion/news.html?sid=6275436

Posted by: Rosetta Sep 29 2010, 09:54 PM

That's a pretty good deal. I wish other companies would do things like that from time to time.

Posted by: Lite-Yoshi Oct 5 2010, 03:51 AM

*gives off a very incoherent scream as the offer seems very great* Now I wish I wasn't broke another 40. *slams head on desk*