Printable Version of Topic
Click here to view this topic in its original format
Lacrima Castle _ Knights in the Nightmare _ BTW
Posted by: Dr Sturm Sep 25 2008, 05:24 AM
Sting's retarded.
Posted by: P.P.A. Sep 25 2008, 09:07 AM
No Sturm, you're The One and can see through the code.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Sep 25 2008, 11:37 AM
I didn't need the code for this.
Posted by: P.P.A. Sep 25 2008, 01:14 PM
What is this thread about then? Maria's very obvious secret, or the spoilery OST trailer?
Posted by: Dr Sturm Sep 25 2008, 04:50 PM
The other five spoilery trailers that Sting recently released.
Posted by: P.P.A. Sep 25 2008, 07:02 PM
I'm watching them. Hooray, many characters with often silly sounding Western names! ("Nordisch", that means Norse in German. BUT IT'S AN ADJECTIVE AND HAVING IT AS A NAME SOUNDS RETARDED)
Also :o,
EDIT: Also since when is "virgin" the name of a class?! I assume they meant maiden, but Engrished it up?
EDIT2: Holy shit, a girl called Saarland. Now I could say I was inside her if I went to the state of the same name. >_>
EDIT3: "Sebastien"? It's "Sebastian", silly ST!NG! Also lol, Norton. I wonder if he'll protect my DS from viruses.
EDIT4: IS THAT A GRIM ANGEL I SPY
EDIT5: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
...okay, ST!NG IS retarded. WAY TO SPOIL YOUR OWN GAME
Posted by: Rhiannon Sep 25 2008, 07:31 PM
By the way, does anyone else find it interesting that she's still 17? Unless she's not actually part of the story at all, that means Kitten takes place around the same time, or not too long after.
Posted by: Yuka Sep 25 2008, 08:25 PM
I thought this thread had to do with the text in the code that had to do with Project WoW.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Sep 25 2008, 09:51 PM
We already knew that Kitten took place between YU and Riviera, and that since YU and Riviera practically overlap timeline-wise, that it would be a tight squeeze.
By the way, I am saying it now: it is not a spoiler to say Yggdra is in Kitten, but if it turns out she is plot related, it is a damn large spoiler to say how without marking it, and I will ban your ass.
#367, however, I will restrict mention of entirely outside of marked spoilers.
And, eventually, when this whole plot is unraveled, it will not be a spoiler to mention that any of them are in any of the games.
Posted by: Rhiannon Sep 25 2008, 09:57 PM
I don't remember ever learning that Riviera and YU were anywhere near overlapping.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Sep 25 2008, 10:15 PM
Riviera covers a span of 1000+ years, so it's not a slip in my wording.
Posted by: Rhiannon Sep 25 2008, 10:21 PM
I also don't remember that.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Sep 25 2008, 10:43 PM
Do I have to say it?
Posted by: Rhiannon Sep 26 2008, 01:03 AM
You confuse me more with every post about this. You said that their timelines nearly overlap.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Sep 26 2008, 01:23 AM
Quit being difficult.
Posted by: Rhiannon Sep 26 2008, 01:45 AM
I'm not trying to be difficult. I honestly don't understand or know when/where you learned this.
Posted by: Feral Phoenix Sep 26 2008, 03:50 AM
I think what Sturm is getting at is that
I don't know if there's proof of that, but
...the Wisp is the most dreadfully obvious part of the whole Kitten affair. Not that I'm complaining, but it's just obvious. D:
Posted by: Dr Sturm Sep 26 2008, 04:27 AM
As I said, we already know that Kitten interacts with the underworld in some way, but through the timeline and through the intro explaining the attack on Aventheim.
Posted by: Neon_the_Chao Sep 26 2008, 03:54 PM
At the risk of sounding totally retarded... I am so lost.
Who the fuck is Kitten?
If she's from YU, I wouldn't know because even though it's is one of my fave games, I only got to play it for a little while because it was my friend's, and I don't remember any characters.
And what's all this new stuff about Riviera you guys are talking about? Is it on the PSP version? 'Cause I have it, but I have no PSP to play it on, so...
Does Riviera make appearances in YU? Is that it?
SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME!
Posted by: P.P.A. Sep 26 2008, 05:25 PM
Knights in the Nightmare
KitN
Kitten
Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Sep 26 2008, 07:49 PM
I want that Yggdra art. It's really nice. >_>
But thinking about KitN, Riviera, and Yggdra Union's timelines is REALLY starting to hurt my head...
Let's just face it. Sting sucks at trying to weave all these games into the same universe.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Sep 26 2008, 08:41 PM
How?
Posted by: Feral Phoenix Sep 27 2008, 01:54 AM
I want that Yggdra art. It's really nice. >_>
But thinking about KitN, Riviera, and Yggdra Union's timelines is REALLY starting to hurt my head...
Let's just face it. Sting sucks at trying to weave all these games into the same universe.
I'm with Sturm. They're making it pretty darn clear: YU first, Knights and Episode 3 next, and Riviera last.
Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Sep 28 2008, 03:32 AM
I mean in how they actually fit together. >.>
I forgot my line of thinking since then but I was talking to a friend about it for a while and it started to get really confusing.
Especially since... To be safe
Posted by: Dr Sturm Sep 28 2008, 03:36 AM
The only way Yggdra is known to show up in Kitten so far is if you have YU inserted while starting a new game, she'll host the tutorial.
Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Sep 28 2008, 03:59 AM
Hmmmm... I see. I know there was a video about it on NicoNico but I couldn't view it obviously. So they put all that work into her just for a cameo? Hmmm...
Posted by: Feral Phoenix Sep 28 2008, 03:59 AM
I mean in how they actually fit together. >.>
I forgot my line of thinking since then but I was talking to a friend about it for a while and it started to get really confusing.
Especially since... To be safe
Also, Akihito said on his blog that Yggdra was going to host the tutorials ages ago. I really need to figure out where he gets his information from. :/
Posted by: Rhiannon Sep 28 2008, 04:41 AM
Posted by: Dr Sturm Sep 28 2008, 05:35 AM
Feral doesn't play video games, Sasha.
Posted by: Archeia Sep 28 2008, 06:56 AM
possible that yggdra could be a secret character
Posted by: jcdietz03 Oct 2 2008, 06:46 PM
Hooray for bad thread names.
This thread should be called Dept Heaven relationships. This way, people would know what the thread is about without having to read the whole thread.
KitN: Avenheim castle (the setting) is "somewhere between heaven and the underworld" according to the Sting intro movie.
There are no characters common to both Riviera and Yggdra.
KitN has some characters in common to both Riviera and Yggdra.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Oct 2 2008, 10:58 PM
Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Oct 3 2008, 02:57 AM
Wait Riviera is Utgard? I thought the whole mission was to "prevent Riviera from turning into another Utgard"?
Posted by: Dr Sturm Oct 3 2008, 03:05 AM
Go back and play Heaven's Gate again - Ledah says to Ein that they merely renamed Utgard as Riviera after the war.
Posted by: Kotlol Oct 3 2008, 10:31 PM
Uuhm I thought Utgard was located somewhere else.
Riviera wasnt Utgard to begin with. The real Utgard was DESTROYED and Riviera is on the neck of becomming the NEW UTGARD.
Or my translation is wrong or you read it wrong or something else.
Riviera was actually an important place to begin with because of the world tree.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Oct 3 2008, 10:38 PM
You were wrong.
Posted by: Kotlol Oct 3 2008, 10:47 PM
Ill add possible screenshots of Ledah and Ein talking tommorow. Just to proof this once and for all how it all went.
Anywaty.... what does Riviera have to do with Knights in the Nightmare so much?
Its the same series, but ok..... Final Fantasy is not a sequal or prequal of eachother right?
Posted by: Dr Sturm Oct 3 2008, 10:56 PM
It is a small price to pay.
After all, Riviera is simply Utgard...
You know that it was renamed after Ragnarok.
http://leyviur.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=528&hl=Utgard
Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Oct 4 2008, 12:29 AM
Ah I see why I got confused. Early on Ledah keeps saying Riviera will turn INTO another Utgard. Then suddenly he says it IS Utgard with a new name.
Damn Ledah.
Posted by: P.P.A. Oct 4 2008, 10:48 AM
He's basically saying that you should prevent it from becoming Utgard again.
Posted by: Raijinili Oct 5 2008, 11:34 AM
Wow, my rip was actually useful.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Oct 5 2008, 03:35 PM
I quote your rip all the time, Rai.