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Lacrima Castle _ Yggdra Game Help _ Aegina's Little Tirade
Posted by: Feral Phoenix May 23 2007, 03:12 PM
I just noticed when I was working on getting the script in BF34 that Aegina's assassination/rant scene has two different versions. Usually, she just says:
but in my Rosary save (and, I believe, the first time I went through the game with Roswell--though I can't be a hundred percent sure about this), I got THIS interesting little scene:
Yggdra: W-what are you talking about?
Aegina: How we suffered to scrape by with our lives... You cannot begin to understand our pain!
Yggdra: What are you saying?!
Aegina: A naive girl like you doesn't deserve such priveleges! Justice would be to strip you of that sword and crown!
Is there a REP requirement that determines which scene you get, is it randomized, or is there some other factor involved?
Posted by: FlameSpark May 23 2007, 07:02 PM
END GAME SPOILERS
And I got this:
Yggdra: What!? What are you talking about!?
Yggdra: Please! Tell me the meaning of this!
Aegina: What's the use...Nothing will change if I tell you now.
Aegina: It's all too late!
Then she gets pwned by the fixed battle...
Posted by: Rhiannon May 23 2007, 07:21 PM
You'd LIKE to think it's a "fixed battle," wouldn't you?
I got a game over.
Posted by: FlameSpark May 23 2007, 09:22 PM
You'd LIKE to think it's a "fixed battle," wouldn't you?
I got a game over.
What I meant was...
Posted by: Rhiannon May 23 2007, 09:36 PM
There must be some sort of problem, here. Why are you and Feral constantly posting that same spoiler?
Spoilers for up to like BF44
Posted by: Another Necromancer May 26 2007, 12:18 PM
I've only played through once, but with Roswell in my party I got Feral's second dialogue set. And about that backstory...
Posted by: Raijinili May 26 2007, 05:01 PM
Response to above spoiler:
Posted by: Fujibayashi Suzu May 26 2007, 07:26 PM
So you only get this little 'rant' if you got Roswell?
Posted by: Dr Sturm May 26 2007, 07:27 PM
Did you read at all? She just said she got it on her Rosary save,
Posted by: Fujibayashi Suzu May 27 2007, 03:57 AM
My bad. Misunderstood a part of it...
I really wonder why I've never seen it then. I've replayed that level many times, out of boredom, and I've never seen Aegina say all that before...
Posted by: Megaolix May 27 2007, 04:19 PM
Maybe mm... Maybe it depends on the number of times you defeat her? There is at least 2 BF when you're not forced to defeat her to finish the BF...
Posted by: SyphonVectorman May 27 2007, 05:53 PM
Hearing that, there could be a TON of factors that could affect the scene...
The obvious one could be REP requirements. Once I start my next playthrough, I'll test out the REP before that BF.
Posted by: Feral Phoenix Jun 25 2007, 04:51 PM
Well, if it amounts to anything, I'd gotten beaten by Rosary once before I beat her, and (largely by luck, as Roswell is REALLY hard to kill for the second time around with Yggdra) I had like two or three REP on him.
So yeah, it could be a REP requirement.
Posted by: Sauce XIV Jun 25 2007, 05:10 PM
(largely by luck, as Roswell is REALLY hard to kill for the second time around with Yggdra)
What are you talking about? What level was your Yggdra, 2?
Posted by: Megaolix Jun 25 2007, 09:41 PM
Well, if it amounts to anything, I'd gotten beaten by Rosary once before I beat her, and (largely by luck, as Roswell is REALLY hard to kill for the second time around with Yggdra) I had like two or three REP on him.
So yeah, it could be a REP requirement.
Posted by: Feral Phoenix Jun 27 2007, 06:31 PM
In case you've forgotten, Roswell is equipped with the Black Rose Crest, meaning his Rage attacks are boosted, and Yggdra sucks against darkness anyway.
That's why it's annoying. Yggdra at the very same level did perfectly fine against Rosary.
Posted by: Sauce XIV Jun 27 2007, 06:47 PM
I was thinking of a different battle, not BF33. Regardless, Roswell still sucks against Yggdra due to holy weaknesses. If you went and killed Roswell the first time, surely you'd have the Midnight Robe, and hopefully you also got the Princess Dress in BF16. And before you suddenly state that Yggdra can't equip items on BF33 (I'm not sure if she can or not, it's been ages since I last did that battle.), you can equip them on her in the beginning of BF32.
Posted by: WhiteKnight Jun 27 2007, 06:50 PM
She can. I equiped Zolfy in that BF.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Jun 27 2007, 07:02 PM
You should know levels don't mean much in Yggdra Union, as well as the fact that you can equip items in BF33... Like the Princess Dress.
Posted by: Xel Jun 28 2007, 11:57 AM
Well I think they were actually abandoned, like Romulus and Remus were. Twins are bad, so what's the problem into leaving them somewhere to starve until death?
Then there's maybe some point where Gulcasa's father or someone else related to Gulcasa saves them... but there's no information in the game about this.
And don't forget they HATE Yggdra. They envy Yggdra's princess status.
Posted by: Megaolix Jun 28 2007, 03:58 PM
Well I think they were actually abandoned, like Romulus and Remus were. Twins are bad, so what's the problem into leaving them somewhere to starve until death?
Then there's maybe some point where Gulcasa's father or someone else related to Gulcasa saves them... but there's no information in the game about this.
And don't forget they HATE Yggdra. They envy Yggdra's princess status.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Jun 28 2007, 04:23 PM
What makes you think people "noticed the similarities" and tried to kill them? Why do people always have to go for the most conspiratorial and tragic situation?
Posted by: Feral Phoenix Jun 28 2007, 06:21 PM
This topic isn't really about theories anyway... it's about what determines which scene you get.
And a lot of that stuff should be under spoiler
so hide it before Ash gets mad and bans the lot of us.
Speaking of which: Has anyone made progress there?
And: I did not equip the Princess Dress on Yggdra at that time because I was saving it for I forget when. *shrug* It made life a lot harder and more annoying. And since the Princess Dress is a 3-map item, just using it for BF33 is a waste--it breaks when she uses the Miracle Tiara for that BF and it becomes a permanent part of her statistics.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Jun 28 2007, 06:37 PM
Posted by: Feral Phoenix Jun 28 2007, 06:41 PM
But those are easy because they are devoid of Black Rose Crest.
Posted by: Dr Sturm Jun 28 2007, 07:01 PM
And with Dark nullification they're even easier, and you're not wasting an item (something you seem quite concerned with).
Posted by: Feral Phoenix Jun 28 2007, 07:11 PM
But, see, I have this really bad habit of going "What if I need it later?" and saving everything just in case and then by the time the end of the game rolls around I always go, "Well, damn, I should've used this sooner..." cause I don't need them then.
Yeah. Actually I should probably use it earlier in the game when it's useful. @_@
Posted by: sandpenguin Aug 12 2007, 07:04 AM
Long time ago why did they say that TWINS are bad? Its good you know cause its damn hard to get twins that have identical faces..blah,blahblah. Only 3 in 1000 deliveries are twins worldwide. WTF,Stupix,Moron King. It IS GOOD LUCK NOT BAD LUCK YOU KNOW!! THANK GOD YOU GET INSIDE TO BE THE 3 DELIVERIES. Poor sisters,why Yggdra was so Naive???? Cause...
Poor royals,turned into peons(????) by some STUPID,NONSENSE superstitions.Thanks...this is what I think of this....beliefs.Sorry for that harsh words used by me....(STILL ANGRY).I hope I can get into the game and...uhh...never mind
Posted by: Raijinili Aug 12 2007, 07:56 AM
Because twins being an heir causes war in a time when inheritance was determined by order of birth, maybe.
Posted by: Suzu Fujibayashi Aug 13 2007, 02:22 AM
I think it's a old, old superstition. And back then, superstitions were all the rage. People were very superstitious.
So it makes sense really...
Posted by: sandpenguin Aug 13 2007, 06:42 AM
Raj,simple!! Just remember who ....erm goes out first from the....errr and that's gonna be the next heir!!(Twins).Bah...stupid superstitious but I DID believe some of the superstitious but this??Crap.
Why...Why...Why...If not because this superstitious maybe many of the events in this game will not happen.Maybe Paltina Army manage to defeat Gulcasa's Behemoth??
Still,Yggdra naive and she kills her OWN sisters!! Fantastic ALLOWED killing!!Thanks....(Still Angry..waiting...waiting). YAY!! 1more week school and then HOLIDAYS!!!Damn homework...