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> Is seth a GUY?, seriously
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post Jan 3 2006, 07:21 PM
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Which can be done.


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post Jan 3 2006, 07:29 PM
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But is it a woman then?
No. It's still an inanimate lump of snow.


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post Jan 3 2006, 07:35 PM
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Fine I get it.


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post Jan 5 2006, 01:43 AM
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Yeah...but is Seth and Ursula inanimate objects?

No. They are alive, and everything in this world that's alive have genders...unless their mutations...like Seth-Ra.

Therefore, i declare the two with boobs, female.

But that's only may opinion...beleive what you like. Hector did call Ursula SHE! And so did everyone else


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post Jan 5 2006, 02:04 AM
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People refer to boats as "she."
Does that make them female?

Ursula and Seth don't have actual physical forms. As Hector said, Ursula is a spirit left from the Ragnarok. I can't think of a better way to say this, but Seth is basically the north when Ursula is the south.


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post Jan 5 2006, 09:41 PM
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a boat is STILL an inanimate object...

Spirit or not, they live...and spirits need a form, and that form will either be male or female. Seth and Ursula happened to have settled a female...they could've changed into guys immedialy if they wanted too.

But imagine...if Ursula was a male throught out the story...*shivers*


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post Jan 5 2006, 09:48 PM
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But they aren't actually female. They only look female.


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post Jan 5 2006, 10:40 PM
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Molo has a good point though. Though I would have to say they are genderless.


Another game that I can think of with spirits taking specific forms are the summons in ToS. And they talk about how in the game the true gender of the summons is unknown.
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post Jan 5 2006, 10:42 PM
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Because they have no gender.
They are spirits, they have no physical form, and thus no gender.


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post Jan 7 2006, 12:47 AM
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the form the take on has to have a gender unless they transform into an object.

Yes spirits are formless and yes that means they truly have no gender...but only if they remain formless.

You can't expect spirits to remain formless, can you? So they take on either an object or a MALE or FEMALE living thing...

Therefore, spirits can have either gender

But i'm not gonna argue anymore, this is all confusing to me now (thanks to this topic O_O). Like i said this is only my opinion.


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post Jan 7 2006, 12:51 AM
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The definition of a gender are the sexual organs. Just because something takes the general shape of a woman, doesn't mean it has the sexual organs, and because of that, Seth/Ursula/Seth-Rah doesn't have a gender.


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post Jan 7 2006, 01:29 AM
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Ooooh, your right! This changes my logic completely!

*runs away to do more research*

I have no life *sob*

*cries and runs away to do more research on life*

then again, you don't know what spirits REALLY can do...they could form the organs inside...naaawwww, no way...

OR CAN THEY?


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post Jan 7 2006, 01:37 AM
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Well, to do that, they would have to take on an actual physical form. Thus meaning they were no longer spirits.


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post Jan 7 2006, 03:30 AM
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Sturm don't poison the mind of others. XO They're women.


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post Jan 7 2006, 03:36 AM
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No they aren't.
They're spirits.
Difference.
I'm not poisoning any minds, I'm explaining.


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